Video: Climategate Part 2, the Quotes and the Context

Climate change deniers are lying to you (again)
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Here’s an excellent video by “potholer54” (real name: Peter Hadfield) on “Climategate Part 2” — the latest attempt by unknown right wingers to sabotage efforts to address climate change, by using distorted and out-of-context quotes.

The climate change deniers promoting this nonsense are flat out lying to the public about a deadly serious problem that will affect the entire world — and that’s the real scandal here. When will the mainstream media start telling this story of blatant dishonesty and character assassination, instead of blindly repeating the false propaganda?

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1 Obdicut  Sun, Nov 27, 2011 10:28:36am

Maybe law enforcement could get off their asses and find the hackers who did this in the first place?

2 Interesting Times  Sun, Nov 27, 2011 10:30:11am

re: #1 Obdicut

Maybe law enforcement could get off their asses and find the hackers who did this in the first place?

My guess is on Murdoch's minions, given how much else they've hacked over the years.

3 rwmofo  Sun, Nov 27, 2011 10:34:41am

Ya gotta love this:

Newt Gingrich: "If (the President) wants to use a teleprompter, that would be fine with me."

"Cuz it has to be fair"

Heh.

4 darthstar  Sun, Nov 27, 2011 10:35:29am

Charles, I can't believe you just wrote this:

Here’s an excellent video by “potholer54” on “Climategate Part 2” — the latest attempt by unknown right wingers to sabotage efforts to address climate change, by using distorted and out-of-context quotes.

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5 Charles Johnson  Sun, Nov 27, 2011 10:37:00am

Troll wants attention.

6 Batman  Sun, Nov 27, 2011 10:38:39am

Potholer's real name is Peter Hadfield, which might make a better attribution than his YouTube channel name. Just a suggestion.

7 Obdicut  Sun, Nov 27, 2011 10:40:58am

re: #2 publicityStunted

There's a lot to choose from. Lots of the right-wing industry front groups regularly get up to insanely creepy shenningans. The old tobacco-industry promoters are the ones running the AGW campaign. We're dealing with people capable of conducting campaigns to promote smoking. Including in women and children.

8 darthstar  Sun, Nov 27, 2011 10:42:05am

re: #5 Charles

Troll wants attention.

I hope you don't mean me...I was just fucking with you.

9 blueraven  Sun, Nov 27, 2011 10:43:36am

re: #3 rwmofo

I think you have a "mouthful of Newt". You should change your tagline.

10 Charles Johnson  Sun, Nov 27, 2011 10:44:33am

re: #8 darthstar

No -- look one comment up from yours.

11 palomino  Sun, Nov 27, 2011 10:45:27am

re: #3 rwmofo

Ya gotta love this:

Newt Gingrich: "If (the President) wants to use a teleprompter, that would be fine with me."

"Cuz it has to be fair"

Heh.

Man, you're a dumbass tool. Are you one of the morons who thinks Obama uses a teleprompter in debates and interviews?

The gop fantasy of the day is that Obama would get clobbered by Newt in a debate. Preposterous, Newt can't even beat the clowns up on stage with him now.

12 Interesting Times  Sun, Nov 27, 2011 10:45:30am

re: #8 darthstar

I hope you don't mean me...I was just fucking with you.

No, he meant the guy whose avatar-subject loved to use teleprompters too :P

13 Batman  Sun, Nov 27, 2011 10:47:17am

I'm confused. Would the debate subject be "alternate history," or "how to get a new wife when your old one is defective"?

14 ProGunLiberal  Sun, Nov 27, 2011 10:47:49am

So, the Internet back at home sucked, so I've missed alot of news.

First Question: What exactly occurred in Pakistan? Wikipedia is rather fuzzy, which is unusual.

We really should have done things differently in 2001.

15 darthstar  Sun, Nov 27, 2011 10:49:31am

re: #10 Charles

No -- look one comment up from yours.

I thought we got done with blindly and stupidly defending Newt in the last thread...I just tuned that comment out.

16 palomino  Sun, Nov 27, 2011 10:50:23am

re: #3 rwmofo

Ya gotta love this:

Newt Gingrich: "If (the President) wants to use a teleprompter, that would be fine with me."

"Cuz it has to be fair"

Heh.

One more thing, you ignoramus. Newt is a fat old ugly serial adulterer ethically challenged resign in disgrace undisciplined bomb throwing POS. If your party nominates him, your committing suicide whether he wins or loses.

17 darthstar  Sun, Nov 27, 2011 10:50:36am

Okay...time to go swim a half mile or so with my wife. Play nice, everyone.

18 palomino  Sun, Nov 27, 2011 10:53:17am

re: #13 nonsense

I'm confused. Would the debate subject be "alternate history," or "how to get a new wife when your old one is defective"?

When voters learn that one of his books is a confederate fantasy in which the South wins the Civil War, they're gonna really respect his track record as a historian.

19 albusteve  Sun, Nov 27, 2011 10:55:16am

I lay a very heavy dose of blame in our own MSM for turning a blind eye to this scam...clearly irresponsible considering all the ramifications and it looks like the sky's the limit in terms of manipulating public opinion...I hate the MSM

20 Charles Johnson  Sun, Nov 27, 2011 10:55:35am

The Geller-thing is still screeching today about Butterball. Teh Stoopid is strong in her.

21 Killgore Trout  Sun, Nov 27, 2011 10:57:09am

re: #14 ProLifeLiberal

So, the Internet back at home sucked, so I've missed alot of news.

First Question: What exactly occurred in Pakistan? Wikipedia is rather fuzzy, which is unusual.

We really should have done things differently in 2001.

It seems our guys were chasing some Taliban and got too close to the border. A Pakistani guard station opened fire and we returned. I suspect this has to do with a story from earlier this week. The Pakistani ambassador to the US got caught sending a letter to the Obama regime to see if there's any US support for limiting the influence of the military in Pakistani government. The military needs a conflict to solidify power and damage US relations.

22 ProGunLiberal  Sun, Nov 27, 2011 10:59:48am

re: #21 Killgore Trout

In 2001, we had the weight of (most) the World behind us. Iran gave some assistance in Afghanistan, and by the time WTC 7 had collapsed, both Russia and India were on the highest alert.

We should have gone bigger.

23 bratwurst  Sun, Nov 27, 2011 11:03:06am

re: #12 publicityStunted

No, he meant the guy whose avatar-subject loved to use teleprompters too :P

Here he is using teleprompters in front of Beefeaters!

Image: reagan-parliament3.jpg

24 Killgore Trout  Sun, Nov 27, 2011 11:04:55am

re: #22 ProLifeLiberal

In 2001, we had the weight of (most) the World behind us. Iran gave some assistance in Afghanistan, and by the time WTC 7 had collapsed, both Russia and India were on the highest alert.

We should have gone bigger.

Maybe. I was never really thrilled out our alliance with Pakistan but sort of accepted it as a practical measure. India would have been the better ally. However, Bush would have one hell of a time treating Pakistan as a hostile power. At least there was some precedent with Saddam (UN sactions, no fly zones, etc). War with Pakistan would be a tough sell.

25 blueraven  Sun, Nov 27, 2011 11:05:05am

re: #22 ProLifeLiberal

In 2001, we had the weight of (most) the World behind us. Iran gave some assistance in Afghanistan, and by the time WTC 7 had collapsed, both Russia and India were on the highest alert.

We should have gone bigger.

No, we should have done the opposite. Special ops...kill or capture bin laden and be done with it years ago.

26 albusteve  Sun, Nov 27, 2011 11:07:50am

re: #21 Killgore Trout

I think the fuse has been lit for the endgame over there, how long it is is anybodies guess....events are probably beyond our control...I am so frustrated with that region I could scream....every death is an insult

27 Killgore Trout  Sun, Nov 27, 2011 11:08:00am

Here's the story about the ambassador for those who missed it: Pakistan’s Ambassador to U.S. Resigns amid Clash between Government and Military

28 albusteve  Sun, Nov 27, 2011 11:08:57am

re: #25 blueraven

No, we should have done the opposite. Special ops...kill or capture bin laden and be done with it years ago.

my sentiments

29 Killgore Trout  Sun, Nov 27, 2011 11:11:05am

re: #25 blueraven

No, we should have done the opposite. Special ops...kill or capture bin laden and be done with it years ago.

Well, as we can see now with bin laned dead it doesn't help stabalize the country as long as Pakistan is still sending terrorists across the border. Afghanistan can't be fixed without dealing with Pakistan too.

30 ProGunLiberal  Sun, Nov 27, 2011 11:11:05am

re: #25 blueraven

And here is where I go to the right of everybody. I admit to having hawkish tendencies.

31 SanFranciscoZionist  Sun, Nov 27, 2011 11:14:23am

re: #12 publicityStunted

No, he meant the guy whose avatar-subject loved to use teleprompters too :P

They're the industry standard. Meh.

32 windsagio  Sun, Nov 27, 2011 11:14:29am

re: #29 Killgore Trout

do you mean 'pakistan is sending terrorists across the border' or 'terrorists are crossing the border from pakistan'?

They're a little different :D

33 blueraven  Sun, Nov 27, 2011 11:14:34am

re: #29 Killgore Trout

Well, as we can see now with bin laned dead it doesn't help stabalize the country as long as Pakistan is still sending terrorists across the border. Afghanistan can't be fixed without dealing with Pakistan too.

I dont think things would have escalated to this point if we had got bin laden and top al queda in the beginning. We dont need to fix Afghanistan...there is no fixing it.

34 SanFranciscoZionist  Sun, Nov 27, 2011 11:16:33am

re: #20 Charles

The Geller-thing is still screeching today about Butterball. Teh Stoopid is strong in her.

What does she consider they have done wrong, at this point? I understood that the TERRIBLE INJUSTICE was that they were selling halal meat not clearly marked as DANGER: ISLAMIC JIHADI DURKA DURKA TURKEY in the U.S., but it seems that's not the case.

Is it now just that selling halal turkeys to Indonesia is treason or something?

35 albusteve  Sun, Nov 27, 2011 11:17:02am

re: #29 Killgore Trout

Well, as we can see now with bin laned dead it doesn't help stabalize the country as long as Pakistan is still sending terrorists across the border. Afghanistan can't be fixed without dealing with Pakistan too.

both are lying, corrupt, tribalist govt's...we simply cannot deal with them on even ground regardless of the amount of firepower we bear...the Talis will never go away...we can kill them for years and it won't matter in the longrun...our money and assets are better spent killing AQ wherever we find them...we got our revenge and it cost a mint, time to evac

36 ProGunLiberal  Sun, Nov 27, 2011 11:18:49am

re: #30 ProLifeLiberal

Exactly.

In 2001, we should have gone balls to the wall. Gotten Iran, Russia, and India into a meeting. Then done something that we haven't done since 1941.

Declared War on Afghanistan and Pakistan.

Using the fact of not only 9/11, but the at the time well known fact of Pakistan using cells in India to conduct Terror attacks, and well as the Mazar-i-Sharif massacre, which resulted in the death of 20 Iranian Diplomats. The Taliban were nothing more than an extension of Pakistan's government. This is seen by the fact the Taliban stripped the land of most of it's resources, and sold it to Pakistan. In fact, I would argue the Taliban was a colonial organization of a sort.

At the time, I think Pakistan's nukes were much more primitive, and we might have had the technology to knock down the missiles that were launched.

re: #32 windsagio

Pakistan DOES have a history of sending terrorists over a border. The Indian one.

37 SanFranciscoZionist  Sun, Nov 27, 2011 11:18:57am

re: #24 Killgore Trout

Maybe. I was never really thrilled out our alliance with Pakistan but sort of accepted it as a practical measure. India would have been the better ally. However, Bush would have one hell of a time treating Pakistan as a hostile power. At least there was some precedent with Saddam (UN sactions, no fly zones, etc). War with Pakistan would be a tough sell.

India has many advantages, but one of them was NOT sharing a long border, the same mountain terrain, and tribal affiliations with the group we were wrassling with.

38 albusteve  Sun, Nov 27, 2011 11:19:56am

re: #36 ProLifeLiberal

Exactly.

In 2001, we should have gone balls to the wall. Gotten Iran, Russia, and India into a meeting. Then done something that we haven't done since 1941.

Declared War on Afghanistan and Pakistan.

Using the fact of not only 9/11, but the at the time well known fact of Pakistan using cells in India to conduct Terror attacks, and well as the Mazar-i-Sharif massacre, which resulted in the death of 20 Iranian Diplomats. The Taliban were nothing more than an extension of Pakistan's government. This is seen by the fact the Taliban stripped the land of most of it's resources, and sold it to Pakistan. In fact, I would argue the Taliban was a colonial organization of a sort.

At the time, I think Pakistan's nukes were much more primitive, and we might have had the technology to knock down the missiles that were launched.

re: #32 windsagio

Pakistan DOES have a history of sending terrorists over a border. The Indian one.

a Pakistani nuke will never get off the ground...no way

39 (I Stand By What I Said Whatever It Was)  Sun, Nov 27, 2011 11:20:10am

re: #21 Killgore Trout

It seems our guys were chasing some Taliban and got too close to the border. A Pakistani guard station opened fire and we returned. I suspect this has to do with a story from earlier this week. The Pakistani ambassador to the US got caught sending a letter to the Obama regime to see if there's any US support for limiting the influence of the military in Pakistani government. The military needs a conflict to solidify power and damage US relations.

See [Link: littlegreenfootballs.com...]

40 Killgore Trout  Sun, Nov 27, 2011 11:20:37am

re: #32 windsagio

do you mean 'pakistan is sending terrorists across the border' or 'terrorists are crossing the border from pakistan'?

They're a little different :D

Pakistan's military intelligence (isi) is very much involved in directing terrorist groups.

41 ProGunLiberal  Sun, Nov 27, 2011 11:21:44am

re: #38 albusteve

I meant in 2001. After 9/11.

We should have done things more forcefully, with more allies.

42 Charles Johnson  Sun, Nov 27, 2011 11:22:10am

re: #34 SanFranciscoZionist

What does she consider they have done wrong, at this point? I understood that the TERRIBLE INJUSTICE was that they were selling halal meat not clearly marked as DANGER: ISLAMIC JIHADI DURKA DURKA TURKEY in the U.S., but it seems that's not the case.

Is it now just that selling halal turkeys to Indonesia is treason or something?

Now she's terribly outraged about the description of kosher turkeys in their glossary. It mentions that the kosher process doesn't eliminate all bacteria, so to Geller this means that Butterball is not only promoting shariah, they're antisemitic.

43 (I Stand By What I Said Whatever It Was)  Sun, Nov 27, 2011 11:23:14am

AP: NATO Attack Allegedly Kills 24 Pakistani Troops

Youtube Video

Al-Jazeera: Pakistan tells NATO to leave air base

Youtube Video

Al-Jazeera: Pakistan blocks NATO supply route following attack

Youtube Video

CNN: NATO, Pakistan square off on border

Youtube Video

euronews: NATO says it is 'highly likely' it killed Pakistani troops

Youtube Video
44 Stanghazi  Sun, Nov 27, 2011 11:23:21am

re: #42 Charles

Now she's terribly outraged about the description of kosher turkeys in their glossary. It mentions that the kosher process doesn't eliminate all bacteria, so to Geller this means that Butterball is not only promoting shariah, they're antisemitic.

She really really hates turkey/butterball. She must have served a crappy one on Thursday.

45 SanFranciscoZionist  Sun, Nov 27, 2011 11:25:06am

re: #44 Stanley Sea

She really really hates turkey/butterball. She must have served a crappy one on Thursday.

Maybe she served a nice ham, secure in the knowledge that Muslims everywhere were grinding their teeth in impotent fury.

/

46 albusteve  Sun, Nov 27, 2011 11:26:32am

re: #41 ProLifeLiberal

I meant in 2001. After 9/11.

We should have done things more forcefully, with more allies.

we did what we thought was best...it was a mess then and the situation has not really improved....I wouldn't trust Kharzi as far as I could throw him...without legit allies over there we can only kill and wreak havoc...when we leave it will all revert to bloodthirsty mayhem again

47 ProGunLiberal  Sun, Nov 27, 2011 11:29:26am

re: #46 albusteve

It's a shame that the Taliban got Ahmed Shah Massoud.

48 Sol Berdinowitz  Sun, Nov 27, 2011 11:32:39am

Original quote

"We seek to help the ill, educate young mothers and children, provide therapy, ease their suffering and pain.


Edited as: "We _k_ill_ed_mother_ ther_e_s_a"

(from "Dilbert")

49 Lidane  Sun, Nov 27, 2011 11:34:13am

re: #20 Charles

The Geller-thing is still screeching today about Butterball. Teh Stoopid is strong in her.

I'm sure she'll keep flogging that fail all the way through Christmas. Can't have patriotic Americans cooking a stealth jihad Butterball for their Christmas dinner.

50 albusteve  Sun, Nov 27, 2011 11:35:00am

re: #47 ProLifeLiberal

It's a shame that the Taliban got Ahmed Shah Massoud.

agreed...but leaders like him are doomed

51 albusteve  Sun, Nov 27, 2011 11:37:13am

re: #49 Lidane

I'm sure she'll keep flogging that fail all the way through Christmas. Can't have patriotic Americans cooking a stealth jihad Butterball for their Christmas dinner.

and 99% of Americans could give a rats ass anyway...it's just not that important...Pam is running out of juice

52 Lidane  Sun, Nov 27, 2011 11:39:27am

re: #51 albusteve

She ran out of ideas a long time ago. Now she's reduced to taking anti-Semitic smears like the kosher tax myth and directing them at Muslims instead.

The one consolation in all this fail is that now she'll forever be known as the crazy bigoted lady who screamed about Islamist turkeys bringing jihad to the Thanksgiving table. She's turned herself into a joke all on her own.

53 ProGunLiberal  Sun, Nov 27, 2011 11:39:34am

We got both good news and bad news from this story in Libya.

Good News: Hospitals and Clinics throughout the nation are much better, especially in smaller towns

Bad News: Undetonated Shells mean they are busy putting kids back to together.

54 (I Stand By What I Said Whatever It Was)  Sun, Nov 27, 2011 11:41:54am

Does anyone know if there will be international election monitors in Egypt tomorrow? There is conflicting information out there:

International election monitors will be looking at the mechanics of the process -- whether it's orderly -- and election officials' understanding of the process. They also will gauge the mood of the electorate, through turnout, whether there is unrest or conflict that impairs the ability of voters to express their will, and whether there is undue influence from the parties, Mastic said.

[Link: www.pbs.org...]

There is little hope for transparency, since the SCAF has banned international election monitors (the Carter Center has been granted “witness” status) and many of the patronage systems that dominated Mubarak-era politics remain intact.

[Link: www.salon.com...]

55 albusteve  Sun, Nov 27, 2011 11:44:52am

re: #54 000G

Does anyone know if there will be international election monitors in Egypt tomorrow? There is conflicting information out there:

[Link: www.pbs.org...]

[Link: www.salon.com...]

you links seem to answer your question

56 (I Stand By What I Said Whatever It Was)  Sun, Nov 27, 2011 11:45:46am

Hmmm. So these are probably only domestic ones…

CAIRO (Reuters) - Egyptians desperate to stop bullies and cheats stitching up the country's first free election in decades are lining up by the thousand, cameras and mobile phones at the ready, to help monitors document abuses and expose the perpetrators.

[…]

The High Elections Commission is issuing 25,000 monitor permits, late in the day but far more than in a widely-discredited 2010 election. At least 30,000 individuals say they want to help oversee the vote, some using websites, social media and text messaging, rights groups say.

CONFUSION

The challenge to oversee 18,000 voting stations, dozens of parties and more than 6,000 candidates chasing 50 million registered voters requires meticulous planning, well in advance.

On the eve of the polls, confusion reigns. Some parties have started campaigning while simultaneously calling for a boycott, saying the vote makes no sense while protesters massed in the capital Cairo demand the army gives up power.

The rules changed this weekend to extend each voting round to two days. Monitor permits were still being issued Sunday.

"There is an astounding amount of ambiguity. You have to be willing to suspend skepticism and cynicism and just roll with it," said Les Campbell, Middle East and North Africa director at the Washington-based National Democratic Institute, one of the groups monitoring the vote.

[…]

With thousands of Egyptians likely to be collecting evidence during a month of staggered elections, more seasoned monitors are warning of a tide of revelations that could irreparably tarnish the vote, even if it is mostly fair.

[Link: www.reuters.com...]

57 (I Stand By What I Said Whatever It Was)  Sun, Nov 27, 2011 11:46:33am

re: #55 albusteve

you links seem to answer your question

One says there will be, the other says no.

58 albusteve  Sun, Nov 27, 2011 11:48:29am

re: #57 000G

One says there will be, the other says no

right...nobody knows, sounds like a confused mess....honest, transparent elections in Egypt and elsewhere in the ME are probably a myth

59 Killgore Trout  Sun, Nov 27, 2011 11:48:35am

Four hack suspects linked to terrorist group

The suspects hacked the trunk-like PBX (private branch exchange) phone lines of different telecommunications companies, including AT&T, the CIDG said. Money stolen in the hacks was diverted to bank accounts belonging to the terrorists, who paid the Filipino hackers on commission, the group said.

The four allegedly worked for a group originally run by Muhammad Zamir, a Pakistani arrested by the FBI in 2007 who was associated with Jemaah Islamiah, a Southeast Asian militant group with links to Al Qaeda.

"Zamir's group, later tagged by the FBI to be the financial source of the terrorist attack in Mumbai, India, on November 26, 2008, is also the same group that paid Kwan's group of hackers in Manila," Police Senior Superintendent Gilbert Sosa said in the statement.

An AT&T representative told Reuters that it "ended up writing off some fraudulent charges that appeared on customer bills" but did not comment on the $2 million figure.

60 (I Stand By What I Said Whatever It Was)  Sun, Nov 27, 2011 11:49:46am

Apparently, they have international monitors in some Egyptian embassies (like the one in D.C.) where Egyptians can vote.

61 (I Stand By What I Said Whatever It Was)  Sun, Nov 27, 2011 11:50:24am

re: #59 Killgore Trout

Did you read this?: [Link: www.reuters.com...]

62 windsagio  Sun, Nov 27, 2011 11:51:38am

re: #52 Lidane

It's a useful lesson, the Islam hate was just about a tactic all along.

a wedge if you will.

63 albusteve  Sun, Nov 27, 2011 11:51:53am

re: #59 Killgore Trout

Four hack suspects linked to terrorist group

hack on
hack off
time to keep score

64 (I Stand By What I Said Whatever It Was)  Sun, Nov 27, 2011 11:52:41am

I wonder what became of the supposed OWS reps they wanted to send over as monitors. Maybe they eloped to Disney World…

65 Killgore Trout  Sun, Nov 27, 2011 11:54:11am

re: #61 000G

Did you read this?: [Link: www.reuters.com...]

Wow, that's an attack from last year. I don't even remember hearing about that. Interesting.

66 albusteve  Sun, Nov 27, 2011 11:54:15am

re: #62 windsagio

It's a useful lesson, the Islam hate was just about a tactic all along.

a wedge if you will.

what's the lesson?

67 Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton  Sun, Nov 27, 2011 11:54:30am

re: #60 000G

You might be interested in this:

[Link: www.kommersant.ru...]

68 (I Stand By What I Said Whatever It Was)  Sun, Nov 27, 2011 11:55:13am

re: #65 Killgore Trout

Wow, that's an attack from last year. I don't even remember hearing about that. Interesting.

Notice the parts about the amazingly lax security measures.

69 albusteve  Sun, Nov 27, 2011 11:55:31am

re: #65 Killgore Trout

Wow, that's an attack from last year. I don't even remember hearing about that. Interesting.

"it was easy pickins"

70 (I Stand By What I Said Whatever It Was)  Sun, Nov 27, 2011 11:55:59am

re: #67 Sergey Romanov

Btw, since we discussed this briefly the other day, did you see this?: [Link: littlegreenfootballs.com...]

71 Interesting Times  Sun, Nov 27, 2011 11:57:04am

re: #70 000G

Btw, since we discussed this briefly the other day, did you see this?: [Link: littlegreenfootballs.com...]

Tear gas? It's another form of eye drops, essentially.

/Megyn Kelly

72 ProGunLiberal  Sun, Nov 27, 2011 11:57:05am

re: #62 windsagio

She also gave me the material for the most updinged comment I ever had. :D

73 (I Stand By What I Said Whatever It Was)  Sun, Nov 27, 2011 11:58:45am

re: #67 Sergey Romanov

You might be interested in this:

[Link: www.kommersant.ru...]

Trying to make my way through this. Provisional reaction: hahaha oh wow

74 SanFranciscoZionist  Sun, Nov 27, 2011 11:59:32am

re: #64 000G

I wonder what became of the supposed OWS reps they wanted to send over as monitors. Maybe they eloped to Disney World…

I missed this. What?

75 Lidane  Sun, Nov 27, 2011 12:00:10pm

re: #66 albusteve

what's the lesson?

Simple. When you've got a lucrative gig going, try not to do this:

Youtube Video
76 (I Stand By What I Said Whatever It Was)  Sun, Nov 27, 2011 12:00:24pm

re: #74 SanFranciscoZionist

I missed this. What?

[Link: www.huffingtonpost.com...]

77 albusteve  Sun, Nov 27, 2011 12:01:45pm

re: #75 Lidane

Simple. When you've got a lucrative gig going, try not to do this:

[Video]

we've known that for years

78 (I Stand By What I Said Whatever It Was)  Sun, Nov 27, 2011 12:02:03pm

re: #76 000G

[Link: www.huffingtonpost.com...]

More:

[Link: www.globalresearch.ca...]
(dunno what to make of that site, though)

79 SanFranciscoZionist  Sun, Nov 27, 2011 12:03:20pm

re: #76 000G

[Link: www.huffingtonpost.com...]

Blink. Blink.

Oh.

80 Lidane  Sun, Nov 27, 2011 12:03:21pm

re: #77 albusteve

we've known that for years

Sure. Most folks have known that for ages. Pam clearly didn't get the memo, though.

If she had, she might have thought through the whole "ZOMG BUTTERBALL IS BRINGING JIHAD TO THE TABLE" idiocy as she wrote it.

81 Killgore Trout  Sun, Nov 27, 2011 12:05:55pm

re: #79 SanFranciscoZionist

Blink. Blink.

Oh.

Let's just send Jimmy Carter instead. He'll certify anything.

82 (I Stand By What I Said Whatever It Was)  Sun, Nov 27, 2011 12:07:01pm

Al-Masry Al-Youm obtains leaked ballots in advance of elections

Al-Masry Al-Youm has obtained official ballots from the Red Sea and Fayoum governorates a day before parliamentary elections. The ballots were leaked in violation of the law.

Some ballots were filled with names of voters who have died, such as Ikram Mohamed al-Bendary of the Dar al-Salam constituency, who died eight years ago, as confirmed by her son-in-law, who discovered it while he was browsing the high elections committee website.

[Link: www.almasryalyoum.com...]

83 SanFranciscoZionist  Sun, Nov 27, 2011 12:07:09pm

re: #81 Killgore Trout

Let's just send Jimmy Carter instead. He'll certify anything.

I'm sure they mean well.

84 albusteve  Sun, Nov 27, 2011 12:07:14pm

re: #76 000G

[Link: www.huffingtonpost.com...]

fail

85 Lidane  Sun, Nov 27, 2011 12:07:51pm

More Sunday comedy with Pam Geller.

ROFL. She's completely delusional.

86 albusteve  Sun, Nov 27, 2011 12:08:23pm

re: #83 SanFranciscoZionist

I'm sure they mean well.

keeps him vibrant and active....
probably not good if you're senile tho

87 windsagio  Sun, Nov 27, 2011 12:13:49pm

re: #66 albusteve

what's the lesson?

The lesson is that you can manipulate people with fear and an enemy and carve quite a good spot out for yourself.

88 albusteve  Sun, Nov 27, 2011 12:14:55pm

re: #87 windsagio

The lesson is that you can manipulate people with fear and an enemy and carve quite a good spot out for yourself.

right

89 sattv4u2  Sun, Nov 27, 2011 12:15:40pm

re: #83 SanFranciscoZionist

I'm sure they mean well.

The road to hell is paved with,,,,,,

90 SanFranciscoZionist  Sun, Nov 27, 2011 12:16:16pm

E-bay baffles me. I just saw a makeup palette listed there for seventy bucks, which is still available on the Sephora site for less than fifty. It's one thing when the limited edition is SOLD OUT, but when it's still in stores, who's going to pay the extra?

When I hunt perfumes on e-Bay, I often see bottles listed for half again what they would cost you at Neiman Marcus or on the Chanel site.

This has been a comment from your early Christmas shopper.

91 SanFranciscoZionist  Sun, Nov 27, 2011 12:17:26pm

re: #89 sattv4u2

The road to hell is paved with,,,

Enthusiastic young Americans who don't speak Arabic, or know what the hell they're looking at?

92 sattv4u2  Sun, Nov 27, 2011 12:18:34pm

re: #91 SanFranciscoZionist

Enthusiastic young Americans who don't speak Arabic, or know what the hell they're looking at?

lol

I'll wave to them on my way to meet Beelzebub

93 Gretchen G.Tiger  Sun, Nov 27, 2011 12:19:10pm

Afternoon all,

It is unseasonably warm and wet in the Very Far Westsern Parts of Chicagoland. I went out without a coat.

How is your part of the world and you?

94 sattv4u2  Sun, Nov 27, 2011 12:20:18pm

re: #93 ggt

Afternoon all,

It is unseasonably warm and wet in the Very Far Westsern Parts of Chicagoland. I went out without a coat.

How is your part of the world and you?

I once went out with a coat

Worse date EVAH!

95 albusteve  Sun, Nov 27, 2011 12:20:20pm

re: #93 ggt

Afternoon all,

It is unseasonably warm and wet in the Very Far Westsern Parts of Chicagoland. I went out without a coat.

How is your part of the world and you?

sunny and warm again in the NM Rio Grande valley...ho hum

96 Gretchen G.Tiger  Sun, Nov 27, 2011 12:20:38pm

re: #85 Liane

More Sunday comedy with Pam Geller.

ROFL. She's completely delusional.

I think Ayn Rand would verbally decimate Pammy.

97 Gretchen G.Tiger  Sun, Nov 27, 2011 12:22:24pm

I have a new desk and am not looking forward to organizing it. I had everything on the old one just right --except it was a banquet table. Now I have an actual desk with drawers and everything.

Looks much better and will probably be more servicable, as a desk.

98 Sol Berdinowitz  Sun, Nov 27, 2011 12:22:52pm

re: #96 ggt

I think Ayn Rand would verbally decimate Pammy.

Whatever else you can say about Ayn Rand's ideologies, she was not one to suffer fools gladly...

99 Gretchen G.Tiger  Sun, Nov 27, 2011 12:23:55pm

re: #98 ralphieboy

Whatever else you can say about Ayn Rand's ideologies, she was not one to suffer fools gladly...

I'm not sure how she would have adapted her ideologies to the Brave New World. I am sure she would not take the route other's seem to have taken with them.

100 windsagio  Sun, Nov 27, 2011 12:25:11pm

re: #98 ralphieboy

Whatever else you can say about Ayn Rand's ideologies, she was not one to suffer fools gladly...

that's like the defining trait of idealogues.

Except 'fools' are more 'anyone who doesn't agree with or suck up to me'.

101 Gretchen G.Tiger  Sun, Nov 27, 2011 12:26:58pm

Mexico City claims zombie walk world record

Nearly 10,000 people have paraded in Mexico City dressed as zombies in what organisers claim is the biggest "zombie walk" ever held.

Wearing ghoulish make-up and rags splattered with fake blood, the "undead" shambled and groaned through the heart of the capital.

The current Guinness world record is held by Asbury Park in the US, where 4,093 zombies marched in 2010.

Zombie walks have grown in popularity worldwide in recent years.

The craze for dressing up as the "living dead" has been fuelled by movies, television, video games and literature.

A group in Brisbane in Australia has also laid claim to the record after massing 8,000 zombies last month.

I really don't understand.

102 sattv4u2  Sun, Nov 27, 2011 12:28:52pm

re: #101 ggt

Mexico City claims zombie walk world record

I really don't understand.

I blame Michael Jackson

Youtube Video
103 Gretchen G.Tiger  Sun, Nov 27, 2011 12:31:30pm

re: #102 sattv4u2

I blame Michael Jackson

[Video]

Sure, it's easy to blame someone who is dead and can't refute your allegations!

:0

104 SanFranciscoZionist  Sun, Nov 27, 2011 12:31:53pm

re: #101 ggt

Mexico City claims zombie walk world record

I really don't understand.

Nor I, but my husband will be excited, and want to see the pictures.

He has a detailed zombie plan which, in part, involves getting to the Big 5 store to loot it before anyone else, (they sell guns and ammo), and then falling back down the block to our police station.

105 Sol Berdinowitz  Sun, Nov 27, 2011 12:32:29pm

re: #103 ggt

Sure, it's easy to blame someone who is dead and can't refute your allegations!

:0

Michael Jackson was a secret Mooslim!!!

/

106 sattv4u2  Sun, Nov 27, 2011 12:33:15pm

re: #103 ggt

Sure, it's easy to blame someone who is dead and can't refute your allegations!

:0

Thats just a rumor

Elvis told me MJ is OK

107 SanFranciscoZionist  Sun, Nov 27, 2011 12:34:32pm

re: #106 sattv4u2

Thats just a rumor

Elvis told me MJ is OK

Anyone here a fan of "Bubba-Ho-Tep"?

"It's Lyndon Johnson! He's going to kill me!"

"Jack, I think President Johnson is dead."

"That wouldn't stop Lyndon!!"

108 Gretchen G.Tiger  Sun, Nov 27, 2011 12:41:33pm

“Our donors truly think the apocalypse has arrived.

109 Dark_Falcon  Sun, Nov 27, 2011 12:43:50pm

re: #14 ProLifeLiberal

So, the Internet back at home sucked, so I've missed alot of news.

First Question: What exactly occurred in Pakistan? Wikipedia is rather fuzzy, which is unusual.

We really should have done things differently in 2001.

Good, you're here. I've been waiting to post this for you:

China Rearms Bangladesh On The Cheap

November 25, 2011: As part of a major effort to modernize the armed forces of Bangladesh, China will deliver 16 F-7BGI jet fighters next year. Bangladesh already has 40 older F-7s (a clone of the Russian MiG-21), plus ten MiG-29s, which form the core of their air combat force. China is providing the aircraft at bargain prices, and doing the same with lots of other military equipment.

Earlier this year Bangladesh has bought seven 250 ton patrol boats from China. Two will be built in China, and five in Bangladesh. The 30 meter (93 foot) vessels are part of a two year old effort to rebuild the Bangladeshi Navy.

Last year, the U.S. Coast Guard donated 16 Defender-class patrol boats. These nine meter (26.5 foot) boats are powered by twin outboard engines, have a top speed of 85 kilometers an hour (and cruise at 65 kilometers an hour). The Defenders carry a crew of four, are armed with two machine-guns and can carry six passengers (or prisoners). They are excellent for patrolling the many river delta waterways on the Bangladeshi coast. The newly created Bangladesh Special Operations Force has adopted the Defender as their primary seaborne transport. Bangladesh has also bought two Castle class patrol boats from Britain, for $2 million each. These 75 meter (246 foot), 1,400 ton ships are armed with a 30mm autocannon and four machine guns. Bangladesh needs all these patrol vessels to deal with smugglers. Neighboring Myanmar is the source of opium smuggling, some which is often carried out by Islamic radical groups, to provide cash for terrorist operations.

110 Dark_Falcon  Sun, Nov 27, 2011 12:44:31pm

re: #93 ggt

Afternoon all,

It is unseasonably warm and wet in the Very Far Westsern Parts of Chicagoland. I went out without a coat.

How is your part of the world and you?

It's about 38 degrees where I am, but it is wet.

111 Gretchen G.Tiger  Sun, Nov 27, 2011 12:49:45pm

re: #110 Dark_Falcon

It's about 38 degrees where I am, but it is wet.

still warm


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