1 Kragar (Antichrist )  Thu, Feb 28, 2013 1:13:53pm

Sheriff Joe Arpaio trips, breaks arm

Sheriff Joe Arpaio fell on his way to lunch Thursday in downtown Phoenix and suffered a broken arm, officials said.

The 80-year-old Maricopa County sheriff was in the emergency room of a hospital about 1:45 p.m. and awaiting a physician following X-rays that showed a fracture. He is said to be in good spirits.

Obviously this was an attempt by the Obama regime to silence Arpaio.
/

2 Gus  Thu, Feb 28, 2013 1:14:51pm

“If some external body is turning the commission off based on their own views of what things ought to be, with no reasonable explanation, then we are going to have a little meeting about who turns that light on or off.”
— Col. James Pohl

3 Targetpractice  Thu, Feb 28, 2013 1:14:51pm

re: #1 Kragar (Antichrist )

Sheriff Joe Arpaio trips, breaks arm

Obviously this was an attempt by the Obama regime to silence Arpaio.
/

Did he trip over his own ego?

4 lawhawk  Thu, Feb 28, 2013 1:15:08pm

Okay, this was clever: “who put habeas corpus on a dimmer switch”.

5 Gus  Thu, Feb 28, 2013 1:15:14pm

re: #1 Kragar (Antichrist )

Sheriff Joe Arpaio trips, breaks arm

Obviously this was an attempt by the Obama regime to silence Arpaio.
/

Now is the winter of our broken bones.

6 Bulworth  Thu, Feb 28, 2013 1:15:34pm

It’s 4:15 here on the East Coast. How has Gene Sperling threatened you today?

/

7 Gus  Thu, Feb 28, 2013 1:16:07pm

In any case. OK, been turning a blind eye to GITMO for a long time now. Not that I will make it a major cause of mine. But, Houston, we’ve got a problem. This is bullshit.

8 lawhawk  Thu, Feb 28, 2013 1:16:22pm

re: #6 Bulworth

It’s 10pm. Do you know where your daily media threat is?

9 klys  Thu, Feb 28, 2013 1:16:25pm

re: #1 Kragar (Antichrist )

Sheriff Joe Arpaio trips, breaks arm

Obviously this was an attempt by the Obama regime to silence Arpaio.
/

Gene Sperling missed Woodward. Collateral damage.

//

10 Gus  Thu, Feb 28, 2013 1:22:29pm
11 Interesting Times  Thu, Feb 28, 2013 1:23:51pm

In the “bear shits in the woods” department, yet more evidence the National Review is such a collection of primitive, mouth-breathing, backwards sexists that even its female writers are into misogyny:

Military-Sexual-Trauma Syndrome

Feminists claim (speciously) that a whopping one-quarter of college co-eds are sexually assaulted by their fellow students in college; I am not aware of comparable claims that huge numbers of female college graduates are as a result ending up on the street. (The difference between the outcomes for college graduates and vets does not lie in the relative availability of services: College rape crisis centers and hotlines are barely used.) I am not even aware of claims that victims of stranger rape are more likely to end up dealing drugs and homeless, but that evidence may in fact be out there. (I recently wrote about a tough-as-nails, pro-police building superintendent in the Bronx who was raped three times, including by her mother’s boyfriend as a child; she is only one case, obviously, but she was not on disability benefits or on the streets.)

But let’s say that for these homeless female vets, it really was their sexual experiences in the military that caused their downward spiral into, as the Times puts it, “alcohol and substance abuse, depression and domestic violence.” Why then have those same feminists who are now lamenting the life-destroying effects of “MST” insisted on putting women into combat units?

(I linked to a WebCite cache because I don’t want to give the stupid shit the satisfaction of more hits)

12 makeitstop  Thu, Feb 28, 2013 1:28:00pm

re: #10 Gus

@Pontifex deleted all his tweets

What means this?

13 Bulworth  Thu, Feb 28, 2013 1:28:44pm

re: #11 Interesting Times

Obviously the correct response to reports of rape in the military services is to exclude women from the military rather than prosecuting the rapists. This has been your daily wingnut ethics minute. /

14 Charles Johnson  Thu, Feb 28, 2013 1:29:05pm

re: #10 Gus

He’s an ex-pope. Fallible again.

15 Kragar (Antichrist )  Thu, Feb 28, 2013 1:29:20pm

House Republican: We’ll Need Dems To Pass Some Bills

House Republicans must be willing to enlist Democrats to pass important legislation, a moderate GOP lawmaker told TPM on Thursday after his leadership passed the Violence Against Women Act with mostly Democratic votes.

“I suspect you may see more issues appear like this,” moderate Rep. Charlie Dent (R-PA) told TPM in an interview Thursday afternoon. “It’s quite possible on matters of governance, where there are not the Republican votes, that there will be bipartisan coalitions formed to pass important legislation. … If John Boehner doesn’t have enough Republican votes, we’ll need Democratic votes. It’s very basic. There’s no way around it.”

Either you can switch parties and join the same members of Congress or you can fuck right off. There is nothing the GOP has to offer.

16 Sionainn  Thu, Feb 28, 2013 1:29:45pm

Las Vegas Strip Shooting Suspect Arrested

Thank goodness.

17 HoosierHoops  Thu, Feb 28, 2013 1:29:56pm

Friday marks the Popes first day of retirement. He will spend his days in solitude and prayer.
I didn’t know the Pope was such a huge Lakers Fan.

18 erik_t  Thu, Feb 28, 2013 1:31:23pm

re: #12 makeitstop

What means this?

It’s easy to interpret as a rejection by the Vatican of Benedict’s desire for a social media strategy.

19 Glenn Beck's Grand Unifying Theory of Obdicut  Thu, Feb 28, 2013 1:31:26pm

re: #15 Kragar (Antichrist )

House Republican: We’ll Need Dems To Pass Some Bills

Either you can switch parties and join the same members of Congress or you can fuck right off. There is nothing the GOP has to offer.

Well, they do have something to offer: Votes on Dem bills. That’d be a return to normal.

20 Kragar (Antichrist )  Thu, Feb 28, 2013 1:31:28pm

Fischer: Liberals Are Modern Day Pharisees

Without even a hint of irony, Bryan Fischer of the American Family Association on Focal Point claimed that the Pharisees whom Jesus used as an example of self-righteous, judgmental, power-seeking, sanctimonious and empty religiosity are still around today… and are liberals.

“If you look for the group of people today who are doing what the Pharisees did in the Jesus did, you have to look at secular fundamentalists, you have to look at liberals, you have to look at progressives,” Fischer said.

Valid examples, what are those? lol
/

21 simoom  Thu, Feb 28, 2013 1:32:17pm

So the House GOP holds up VAWA passage for over a year (because of LGBT, tribal & immigrant protections), and when it finally passes, they mostly vote against:

[Link: clerk.house.gov…]

REPUBLICAN
Y:87 N:138

DEMOCRATIC
Y:199 N:0

And LCR covers it like this:

Heh.

22 klys  Thu, Feb 28, 2013 1:32:22pm

re: #11 Interesting Times

In the “bear shits in the woods” department, yet more evidence the National Review is such a collection of primitive, mouth-breathing, backwards radicals that even its female writers are misogynists:

Military-Sexual-Trauma Syndrome

(I linked to a WebCite cache because I don’t want to give the stupid shit the satisfaction of more hits)

From the article:

Isn’t there a contradiction in expecting the military to “protect” you while it also sends you out to face mortal risk?

I don’t have words. I just don’t.

How dare women expect to be “protected” from rape. Whatever the fuck that means.

I don’t even. I just. How do you put together a world view where something like that makes sense and is ok to say? I don’t understand.

23 Gus  Thu, Feb 28, 2013 1:32:42pm

re: #12 makeitstop

What means this?

He got drunk last night and Tweeted a bunch of stuff that he regretted in the morning.

//

24 Kragar (Antichrist )  Thu, Feb 28, 2013 1:32:45pm

As long as you have an R next your name, don’t try conning me by saying you’re a moderate. The GOP gave up on being moderate years ago.

25 erik_t  Thu, Feb 28, 2013 1:33:11pm

re: #22 klys

From the article:

Isn’t there a contradiction in expecting the military to “protect” you while it also sends you out to face mortal risk?

Breaking: all US Army tanks to be stripped of armor.

26 Kragar (Antichrist )  Thu, Feb 28, 2013 1:33:32pm

re: #21 simoom

So the House GOP holds up VAWA passage for over a year (because of LGBT, tribal & immigrant protections), and when it finally passes, they mostly vote against:

[Link: clerk.house.gov…]

And LCR covers it like this:

Heh.

Some people like abusive relationships.
/

27 Gus  Thu, Feb 28, 2013 1:34:09pm

re: #11 Interesting Times

Thanks for wading in. Saw some rumbling about it on Twitter… Started reading it and bailed.

28 Kragar (Antichrist )  Thu, Feb 28, 2013 1:34:50pm

re: #22 klys

From the article:

I don’t have words. I just don’t.

How dare women expect to be “protected” from rape. Whatever the fuck that means.

I don’t even. I just. How do you put together a world view where something like that makes sense and is ok to say? I don’t understand.

Usually, you would only expect to be attacked by the enemy, not your fellow soldiers.

I guess that is too much to expect according to some people.

29 Bulworth  Thu, Feb 28, 2013 1:34:52pm
“If you look for the group of people today who are doing what the Pharisees did in the Jesus did, you have to look at secular fundamentalists, you have to look at liberals, you have to look at progressives,” Fischer said.

I remember well when the secular humanists fundamentalists dragged the woman caught in adultery before Jesus and demanded that a religious penalty—stoning—be given her. //

30 klys  Thu, Feb 28, 2013 1:34:59pm

re: #25 erik_t

Breaking: all US Army tanks to be stripped of armor.

Don’t I recall outrage because troops were in some cases providing their own bulletproof gear during the Iraq War?

31 makeitstop  Thu, Feb 28, 2013 1:36:13pm

re: #18 erik_t

It’s easy to interpret as a rejection by the Vatican of Benedict’s desire for a social media strategy.

Ohhhhh. Pontiff Ex….. Now I git it.

32 Gus  Thu, Feb 28, 2013 1:36:41pm

The wingnuts are angry at this.

Just think. Tonight Woodward goes on Hannity and the madness will erupt again. In all likelihood, Woodward will hit a Sunday political show this weekend.

33 A Mom Anon  Thu, Feb 28, 2013 1:36:45pm

re: #22 klys

That would be rape by their fellow soldiers and sometimes military contractors. Seriously, the ONLY people responsible for rape are RAPISTS. No RAPISTS, no rape, amazing how that works.

I seriously hate people sometimes.

34 Bulworth  Thu, Feb 28, 2013 1:37:09pm
And LCR covers it like this:


LCR Celebrates Republican-Controlled House of Representatives Passage of LGBT-Inclusive Violence Against Women Act:
logcabin.org/site/apps/nlne…

— LogCabinRepublicans (@LogCabinGOP)
February 28, 2013

Wait, did they actually look at the roll call? Oh, they’re just being hacks. Never mind.

35 Bulworth  Thu, Feb 28, 2013 1:37:55pm

re: #32 Gus

The wingnuts are angry at this.

Just think. Tonight Woodward goes on Hannity and the madness will erupt again. In all likelihood, Woodward will hit a Sunday political show this weekend.

OUTRAGE!

36 efuseakay  Thu, Feb 28, 2013 1:38:08pm

re: #1 Kragar (Antichrist )

Sheriff Joe Arpaio trips, breaks arm

Obviously this was an attempt by the Obama regime to silence Arpaio.
/

He doesn’t even know how to walk. Sure, let’s trust him and his “posse” with the safety of our children!

37 Dr. Matt  Thu, Feb 28, 2013 1:38:14pm

re: #30 klys

Don’t I recall outrage because troops were in some cases providing their own bulletproof gear during the Iraq War?

Yes, but that’s ok when there is a White President.

38 Feline Fearless Leader  Thu, Feb 28, 2013 1:38:18pm

re: #24 Kragar (Antichrist )

As long as you have an R next your name, don’t try conning me by saying you’re a moderate. The GOP gave up on being moderate years ago.

Dent is from the Allentown area and has Toomey’s old seat. Has successfully defended it multiple times since then.

[Link: en.wikipedia.org…]

Not as full-bore wingnut as some, but also went on record defending the Ryan Plan.

39 FriendsofHummus  Thu, Feb 28, 2013 1:38:29pm

re: #24 Kragar (Antichrist )

As long as you have an R next your name, don’t try conning me by saying you’re a moderate. The GOP gave up on being moderate years ago.

I mean shit, you don’t have to become a Dem. At least become an independent. Really, the excuses I hear for staying registered with that party are slily. Even Lincoln Chaffee who I liked and respected as a Senator had a really pathetic one. It’s nice that your father named you after Abraham Lincoln but the GOP stopped believing in Lincoln’s legacy years ago when Nixon and co decided it was better to court angry segregationists rather than minorities to your party. And to Mr. Chafee’s credit, he has since switched.

40 Interesting Times  Thu, Feb 28, 2013 1:38:35pm

re: #27 Gus

Thanks for wading in. Saw some rumbling about it on Tweeter… Started reading it and bailed.

I’m hard-pressed to offer more commentary on its blithering, sadistic stupidity without risking a violation of LGF site policy.

41 Gus  Thu, Feb 28, 2013 1:38:46pm

re: #35 Bulworth

OUTRAGE!

THEY’RE COVERING FOR OBLAMER!!11TY

42 makeitstop  Thu, Feb 28, 2013 1:39:12pm

re: #23 Gus

He got drunk last night and Tweeted a bunch of stuff that he regretted in the morning.

//

How do you say ‘Bqhatevwr’ in Latin?

43 Bulworth  Thu, Feb 28, 2013 1:39:22pm

I remember well when the secularist humanists seculars arrested Jesus and demanded He be crucified for the sin of blasphemy. /

44 efuseakay  Thu, Feb 28, 2013 1:40:00pm

re: #21 simoom

So the House GOP holds up VAWA passage for over a year (because of LGBT, tribal & immigrant protections), and when it finally passes, they mostly vote against:

[Link: clerk.house.gov…]

And LCR covers it like this:

Heh.

45 klys  Thu, Feb 28, 2013 1:40:27pm

re: #40 Interesting Times

I’m hard-pressed to offer more commentary on its blithering, sadistic stupidity without risking a violation of LGF site policy.

I can’t even string together 5 words on it. Violation of policy or not.

46 Dr. Matt  Thu, Feb 28, 2013 1:41:21pm

If secularist humanists actually existed during the time of Jesus they would have been executed for blasphemy.

47 Gus  Thu, Feb 28, 2013 1:42:12pm

re: #46 Dr. Matt

If secularist humanists actually existed during the time of Jesus they would have been executed for blasphemy.

Ours is a loving and caring God.

I don’t believe in God.

KILL HIM!

48 Bulworth  Thu, Feb 28, 2013 1:42:35pm

I remember well when the atheist secularist fundamentalists arrested a man Jesus healed on the Sabbath Day for violating the secular sacredness of the day set aside for secular atheism. /

49 Feline Fearless Leader  Thu, Feb 28, 2013 1:42:37pm

re: #46 Dr. Matt

If secularist humanists actually existed during the time of Jesus they would have been executed for blasphemy.

Probably did exist - but were careful enough to not openly proclaim it.

50 FriendsofHummus  Thu, Feb 28, 2013 1:43:22pm

re: #47 Gus

Ours is a loving and caring God.

I don’t believe in God.

KILL HIM!

Shit, they think you’re a heathen if you dare to say “I don’t know if there is a God or not but I want to try to live my life the best way I can.” That’s being a heathen in a fundamentalist’s mindset.

51 Charles Johnson  Thu, Feb 28, 2013 1:43:27pm

re: #32 Gus

Politico gets to first help hype the controversy, then help debunk it.

52 Kragar (Antichrist )  Thu, Feb 28, 2013 1:44:25pm

re: #47 Gus

Ours is a loving and caring God.

I don’t believe in God.

KILL HIM!

If you really read the Bible, the only sane conclusion one can reach is that God is the bad guy in the story.

53 Gus  Thu, Feb 28, 2013 1:44:25pm

re: #51 Charles Johnson

Politico gets to first help hype the controversy, then help debunk it.

Yeah, seems like they’re playing both angles. Hype it. Debunk it. Repeat.

54 FriendsofHummus  Thu, Feb 28, 2013 1:46:30pm

re: #44 efuseakay

Of course not, these are the people who get mad at Obama for taking too long to come out in favor of gay marriage which is fair game but then they praise Dick Cheney who belonged to an administration that actively pushed a ban on gay marriage. I mean kudos to Cheney for not being a bigot but he did nothing to stop his administration’s push on that issue and yes I know he was the VP but kind of funny how he exerted his influence in other things but not that one huh They don’t have to like Obama and the D’s but the LCR’s act is to suggest that somehow the Republicans are the better party on gay rights which is funny as shit considering Boehner’s insanity when it comes to defending DOMA at all costs.

55 Gus  Thu, Feb 28, 2013 1:46:38pm

re: #52 Kragar (Antichrist )

If you really read the Bible, the only sane conclusion one can reach is that God is the bad guy in the story.

Yeah. “Hmm, think I’ll start over again. Let’s see. I have an idea. I’ll flood the Earth and drown millions of people and animals except for this weird family who I’ll have build a giant boat and put two of each animal in the world…”

56 klys  Thu, Feb 28, 2013 1:46:46pm

re: #22 klys

Because I seriously can’t let this go.

“Protection” from rape seems to consist of the rules saying “it’s bad, don’t do this” and expecting the military to prosecute someone who does. Just like civilians expect the police/prosecutor to do.

Meanwhile, the list of things that women are supposed to do to prevent rape is long. Keep your keys in your hand when walking alone at night. Don’t talk on the phone. Always watch your drink at a party, never leave it unattended. Don’t accept a drink except from the bartender’s hand. Be aware of your surroundings. Watch how you dress. How you interact. Don’t send mixed signals.

And all of this is well and good - we should be aware of our surroundings and behavior because nobody wants to be a statistic - but where’s the list of shit that guys are supposed to do to reduce rape? Why can’t the discussion be about how to reduce rape and not how a woman (or man) becomes a statistic?

Fucking hell, there are days I hate people.

57 simoom  Thu, Feb 28, 2013 1:49:09pm

So Fox New’s lead story is “Woodward-gate”. Take a look it how they abridge the Sperling e-mail for their readership’s consumption:

[Link: www.foxnews.com…]

Then, he said he received a page-long email from the aide — apparently Sperling — that said: “I apologize for raising my voice in our conversation today. … You’re focusing on a few specific trees that give a very wrong impression of the forest. But perhaps we will just not see eye to eye here. … I think you will regret staking out that claim.”

Here’s what they edited out:

[Link: www.politico.com…]

Bob:

I apologize for raising my voice in our conversation today. My bad. I do understand your problems with a couple of our statements in the fall — but feel on the other hand that [Y]ou[‘re] focus[ing] on a few specific trees that gives a very wrong perception[impression] of the forest. But perhaps we will just not see eye to eye here.

But I do truly believe you should rethink your comment about saying saying that Potus asking for revenues is moving the goal post. I know you may not believe this, but as a friend, I think you will regret staking out that claim. The idea that the sequester was to force both sides to go back to try at a big or grand barain with a mix of entitlements and revenues (even if there were serious disagreements on composition) was part of the DNA of the thing from the start. It was an accepted part of the understanding — from the start. Really. It was assumed by the Rs on the Supercommittee that came right after: it was assumed in the November-December 2012 negotiations. There may have been big disagreements over rates and ratios — but that it was supposed to be replaced by entitlements and revenues of some form is not controversial. (Indeed, the discretionary savings amount from the Boehner-Obama negotiations were locked in in BCA: the sequester was just designed to force all back to table on entitlements and revenues.)

I agree there are more than one side to our first disagreement, but again think this latter issue is diffferent. Not out to argue and argue on this latter point. Just my sincere advice. Your call obviously.

My apologies again for raising my voice on the call with you. Feel bad about that and truly apologize.

Fox could teach a master class in whatever-TF this is.

58 Dr. Matt  Thu, Feb 28, 2013 1:49:27pm

re: #47 Gus

Ours is a loving and caring God.

I don’t believe in God.

KILL HIM!

Facebook through history

59 Glenn Beck's Grand Unifying Theory of Obdicut  Thu, Feb 28, 2013 1:49:51pm

re: #56 klys

And in the end, since most women are attacked by people who are their intimates, the real advice would be “Don’t be intimate with men.”

Nothing women do increases the chance of rape. There is plenty of rape in societies like Saudi Arabia where women’s rights are circumscribed— because they are.

60 erik_t  Thu, Feb 28, 2013 1:50:04pm

re: #52 Kragar (Antichrist )

If you really read the Bible, the only sane conclusion one can reach is that God is the bad guy in the story.

Well, the first half. Just gotta remember not to trifle with Vengeful Old-Testament God.

Friendly Hippy New-Testament God seems like an alright guy.

61 Varek Raith  Thu, Feb 28, 2013 1:50:18pm

re: #47 Gus

Ours is a loving and caring God.

I don’t believe in God.

KILL HIM!

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62 FriendsofHummus  Thu, Feb 28, 2013 1:50:32pm

re: #57 simoom

So Fox New’s lead story is “Woodward-gate”. Take a look it how they abridge the Sperling e-mail for their readership’s consumption:

[Link: www.foxnews.com…]

Here’s what they edited out:

[Link: www.politico.com…]

Fox could teach a master class in whatever-TF this is.

Fox News: We distort and call the President a traitor, and then you decide. Fair and Balanced enough to make the greatest propagandists proud.

63 Gus  Thu, Feb 28, 2013 1:50:36pm

re: #60 erik_t

Well, the first half. Just gotta remember not to trifle with Vengeful Old-Testament God.

Friendly Hippy New-Testament God seems like an alright guy.

Yeah. People change. //

64 Shvaughn  Thu, Feb 28, 2013 1:51:07pm

re: #12 makeitstop

What means this?

Means this:

The process of transition to that new pope now begins. Meanwhile, the Catholic Church is without a leader.

Symbolizing that gulf at the top, all Benedict’s tweets as @Pontifex have been archived. Instead, the account’s Twitter page reads only “Sede Vacante,” or empty seat.

65 Feline Fearless Leader  Thu, Feb 28, 2013 1:51:40pm

re: #60 erik_t

Well, the first half. Just gotta remember not to trifle with Vengeful Old-Testament God.

Friendly Hippy New-Testament God seems like an alright guy.

Including his plan to get his son crucified as an example?
//

66 simoom  Thu, Feb 28, 2013 1:52:16pm

re: #62 HappyWarrior

I especially like how they just added and altered words here and there, with no indication that they did, within the quoted passages. /

67 Kragar (Antichrist )  Thu, Feb 28, 2013 1:52:47pm

re: #60 erik_t

Well, the first half. Just gotta remember not to trifle with Vengeful Old-Testament God.

Friendly Hippy New-Testament God seems like an alright guy.

Yeah, but his fan club is a bunch of dicks.

68 Charles Johnson  Thu, Feb 28, 2013 1:53:58pm

re: #62 HappyWarrior

“I apologize for raising my voice in our conversation today. … You’re focusing on a few specific trees that give a very wrong impression of the forest. But perhaps we will just not see eye to eye here. … I think you will regret staking out that claim.”

Man, they dot-dot-dotted the hell out of that email.

69 FriendsofHummus  Thu, Feb 28, 2013 1:54:26pm

Honestly on the subject of religion, I can remember the idea of Christ being crucified to “die for our sins” bothering me as early as five or six when I took CCD classes. Just didn’t seem right to me. I mean I still believed in God. NOwadays I am frankly not sure and really don’t care because I want to make the best of this life and don’t see how a god or not a god makes a difference. I still do want to believe in an afterlife though.

70 erik_t  Thu, Feb 28, 2013 1:54:54pm

re: #65 Feline Fearless Leader

Including his plan to get his son crucified as an example?
//

No one’s perfect.

/

71 klys  Thu, Feb 28, 2013 1:55:29pm

re: #59 Glenn Beck’s Grand Unifying Theory of Obdicut

And in the end, since most women are attacked by people who are their intimates, the real advice would be “Don’t be intimate with men.”

Nothing women do increases the chance of rape. There is plenty of rape in societies like Saudi Arabia where women’s rights are circumscribed— because they are.

But if they just had gunz, they could protect themselves!

///

72 FriendsofHummus  Thu, Feb 28, 2013 1:55:51pm

re: #68 Charles Johnson

Man, they dot-dot-dotted the hell out of that email.

Takes skill. But yeah the narrative that Hannity is going to give his viewers tonight is of the big mean WH staffer pushing the poor heroic Woodward around. He’ll also ignore the response letter by Woodward where Woodward says the apology isn’t necessary. I don’t know what Woodward’s deal is.

73 Feline Fearless Leader  Thu, Feb 28, 2013 1:56:07pm

re: #70 erik_t

No one’s perfect.

/

Could just be same policies with a more acceptable “face” put on them.
/

74 FriendsofHummus  Thu, Feb 28, 2013 1:56:28pm

re: #70 erik_t

No one’s perfect.

/

I still think that line from Some Like It Hot is one of the best lines ever in comedy.

75 Varek Raith  Thu, Feb 28, 2013 1:57:33pm

re: #72 HappyWarrior

…But yeah…Hannity is…heroic.

/FoxNews

76 Feline Fearless Leader  Thu, Feb 28, 2013 1:57:39pm

re: #72 HappyWarrior

Takes skill. But yeah the narrative that Hannity is going to give his viewers tonight is of the big mean WH staffer pushing the poor heroic Woodward around. He’ll also ignore the response letter by Woodward where Woodward says the apology isn’t necessary. I don’t know what Woodward’s deal is.

My guess is that the key at this point is “any publicity is good publicity”. And Hannity will be able to spin it into being Obama’s fault in any case - assuming they even stay on Woodward’s exchange with the staffer as the main topic.

77 Charles Johnson  Thu, Feb 28, 2013 1:59:13pm

Of course, it’s all hype to get you to watch Hannity’s show, I hope everyone realizes that. You won’t learn anything new.

78 FriendsofHummus  Thu, Feb 28, 2013 2:00:12pm

re: #76 Feline Fearless Leader

My guess is that the key at this point is “any publicity is good publicity”. And Hannity will be able to spin it into being Obama’s fault in any case - assuming they even stay on Woodward’s exchange with the staffer as the main topic.

Hell Hannity would honestly try to spin it in to the staffer being personally directed by Obama to write the letter. Really, the fact that Woodward is going on Hannity really says a lot about his agenda in this story.

79 FriendsofHummus  Thu, Feb 28, 2013 2:00:55pm

re: #77 Charles Johnson

Of course, it’s all hype to get you to watch Hannity’s show, I hope everyone realizes that. You won’t learn anything new.

Well I won’t be doing tonight what I don’t do every night and that’s hear Sean Hannity’s annoying whiny voice and see his smug face.

80 jamesfirecat  Thu, Feb 28, 2013 2:00:59pm

re: #68 Charles Johnson

Man, they dot-dot-dotted the hell out of that email.

So the guys’ll gets in toch with me, yaddda yaddda yaddda I am in fear for my life….

81 jamesfirecat  Thu, Feb 28, 2013 2:02:05pm

re: #69 HappyWarrior

Honestly on the subject of religion, I can remember the idea of Christ being crucified to “die for our sins” bothering me as early as five or six when I took CCD classes. Just didn’t seem right to me. I mean I still believed in God. NOwadays I am frankly not sure and really don’t care because I want to make the best of this life and don’t see how a god or not a god makes a difference. I still do want to believe in an afterlife though.

I feel the same way I really hope there is an afterlife/reincarnation, existing is one of those rare things I am so very good at, I would hate to stop doing it….

82 erik_t  Thu, Feb 28, 2013 2:02:13pm

re: #77 Charles Johnson

Of course, it’s all hype to get you to watch Hannity’s show, I hope everyone realizes that. You won’t learn anything new.

Thus making it exactly how different from Hannity’s show on literally any other night?

83 FriendsofHummus  Thu, Feb 28, 2013 2:06:14pm

re: #81 jamesfirecat

I feel the same way I really hope there is an afterlife/reincarnation, existing is one of those rare things I am so very good at, I would hate to stop doing it….

Yeah and I have to admit on a selfish level there’s a desire to meet famous people who have passed on or on a sentimental level relatives not met or those who died when I was young. Never knew my paternal grandfather who all my relatives say was just the most amazing guy, I’m sort of named after him, and my one uncle who died when I was a baby of an OD.

84 FriendsofHummus  Thu, Feb 28, 2013 2:07:06pm

re: #82 erik_t

Thus making it exactly how different from Hannity’s show on literally any other night?

Over and under for “Chicago thugs” or some use of the word thug or thuggery by Sean tonight. I’ll go with 13.

85 efuseakay  Thu, Feb 28, 2013 2:09:09pm

re: #46 Dr. Matt

If secularist humanists actually existed during the time of Jesus they would have been executed for blasphemy.

Biggus Dickus was a secularist humanist. That’s why nobody dare speak his name back then, or else they’d be thwoan to da fleur.

86 Glenn Beck's Grand Unifying Theory of Obdicut  Thu, Feb 28, 2013 2:12:31pm

Email I just received from the NAACP:

I’m trying to keep my cool here,

It no longer surprises me when extremist state legislators try to restrict our voting rights. I don’t like it and we fight against it, but I’m no longer surprised by it.

What surprises and outrages me is that yesterday a Supreme Court Justice said that the protection of the right to vote is a “perpetuation of racial entitlement.”

Read what Justice Scalia had to say about the Voting Rights Act (VRA) — and join me in speaking up for our rights as American citizens.

Let’s think about those words and what they mean: “racial entitlement.”

Those words suggest undeserved privilege. They suggest that our right to vote doesn’t need protection.

We know it does. In Kilmichael, Mississippi, the all-white city council canceled an election when it became clear that black candidates might win. In Shelby County, Alabama, after a black man won elected office local legislators gerrymandered him out of office. Both of these injustices took place in the past ten years and both were remedied quickly because of Section 5 of the VRA.

Moreover, in just the past two years, six of the nine states covered by the Voting Rights Act passed laws making it harder for people of color to vote. Most of those laws were blocked thanks to Section 5, as well.

Get angry and speak up now:

[Link: action.naacp.org…]

Congressman John Lewis was sitting in front of me in the Supreme Court as Justice Scalia spoke those words.

I was so appalled for him at that moment. This hero of the civil rights movement who had fought and won so many battles to protect our community’s right to vote had to listen as Justice Scalia reduced it all — without any sense of irony — to “racial entitlement.”

For Congressman Lewis, for Rosa Parks, and all the other heroes of the civil rights movement, stand with the NAACP to say that voting is a right, not an entitlement:

[Link: action.naacp.org…]

Thanks,

Ben

Benjamin Jealous
President and CEO
NAACP

87 Vicious Babushka  Thu, Feb 28, 2013 2:13:51pm

The dumbest dumbass on Twitter didn’t get the memo about the Woodward FAIL

88 Varek Raith  Thu, Feb 28, 2013 2:15:53pm

Pic of Woodward’s credibility;
Image: h99121-500.jpg

89 Targetpractice  Thu, Feb 28, 2013 2:16:18pm

re: #77 Charles Johnson

Of course, it’s all hype to get you to watch Hannity’s show, I hope everyone realizes that. You won’t learn anything new.

Besides whatever new excuse he gives for his moment of derp. My money’s still on “I’m the real victim here!”

90 FriendsofHummus  Thu, Feb 28, 2013 2:17:53pm

re: #88 Varek Raith

Pic of Woodward’s credibility;
Image: h99121-500.jpg

It’s too bad because I think some people are giving him a pass because “Hey, he broke Watergate so he has absolute credibility.:” which frankly no one should have I must have missed the part of the Constitution where a president should be impeached because of something a staffer did in the heat of the moment. And hell, the email was a fucking apology for crying out loud. An apology. These people want to make everything anyone who works for Obama does out to be a crime. It’s the boy who cries wolf times a 1000.

91 simoom  Thu, Feb 28, 2013 2:18:01pm

re: #86 Glenn Beck’s Grand Unifying Theory of Obdicut

Email I just received from the NAACP:

…

Congressman John Lewis was sitting in front of me in the Supreme Court as Justice Scalia spoke those words. …

92 Glenn Beck's Grand Unifying Theory of Obdicut  Thu, Feb 28, 2013 2:19:13pm

re: #91 simoom

John Lewis has put up with too much shit.

93 Vicious Babushka  Thu, Feb 28, 2013 2:19:27pm

Bryan is turning me into a Christian because every time I read one of his Tweets I say JESUS CHRIST!

94 FriendsofHummus  Thu, Feb 28, 2013 2:19:52pm

re: #91 simoom

Considering that Lewis risked his life for Civil Rights, I don’t blame him and I wouldn’t have blamed either if he had used salty language to describe Justice Scalia’s pathetic bullshit.

95 Stanley Sea  Thu, Feb 28, 2013 2:20:05pm

re: #86 Glenn Beck’s Grand Unifying Theory of Obdicut

Got it too. Thanks for posting.

Excellent email. Puts what Scalia said in perspective. A very scary perspective.

96 FriendsofHummus  Thu, Feb 28, 2013 2:22:05pm

re: #92 Glenn Beck’s Grand Unifying Theory of Obdicut

John Lewis has put up with too much shit.

He really has. I bet he was also upset when Elena Kagan’s admiration and work for Justice Marshall was made out to be a negative by the Senate Republicans too during her confirmation hearings.

97 simoom  Thu, Feb 28, 2013 2:28:09pm


98 FriendsofHummus  Thu, Feb 28, 2013 2:28:36pm

We’ve gone from the vast majority of Republicans and Democrats voting for the VRA and subsequent decades confirmation of its constitutionality to John Roberts, Antonin Scalia, saying it’s not constitutional. This is real judicial activism. A true judicial conservative like many of the judges on the Warren and later Burger court would understand precedence and the fact that the law has worked as intended. And yes, I’m angry, angry that Chief Justice Roberts would try to twist this in to oh woe the poor South is being discriminated against and Scalia’s claim that it’s just a pretty worded law and that crap about racial entitlements. These are both men that Republican presidential candidates want their model justices to be. There’s a lot of reasons to oppose the Republican party but considering judicial appointments are for life or last years after that executive leaves, Republican judiciary picks are a very simple and obvious reason to oppose that party.

99 Gus  Thu, Feb 28, 2013 2:29:05pm
100 Glenn Beck's Grand Unifying Theory of Obdicut  Thu, Feb 28, 2013 2:29:59pm
In 1964, Lewis coordinated SNCC’s efforts for “Mississippi Freedom Summer,” a campaign to register black voters across the South. The following year, Lewis led one of the most dramatic protests of the era. On March 7, 1965 — a day that would become known as “Bloody Sunday” — Lewis and fellow activist Hosea Williams led over 600 marchers across the Edmund Pettus Bridge in Selma, Alabama. At the end of the bridge, they were met by Alabama State Troopers, who ordered them to disperse. When the marchers stopped to pray, the police discharged tear gas and mounted troopers charged the demonstrators, beating them with night sticks. Lewis’s skull was fractured, but he escaped across the bridge, to a church in Selma. Before he could be taken to the hospital, John Lewis appeared before the television cameras calling on President Johnson to intervene in Alabama.

It is not quite fifty years since Congressman Lewis was beaten down for having the temerity to insist that he was the equal of a white man. Are we really to pretend that all that poisonous racism has disappeared? When nailbombs that could kill hundred get planted in the northeast, while voter suppression affecting minorities outrageously is endorsed at the highest levels of the GOP? Really?

Can it be that the Supreme Court justices are ignorant of the cases that were raised under section 5? If so, how can they be questioning its relevance, whatever the arguments as to constitutionality?

101 Gus  Thu, Feb 28, 2013 2:30:16pm

But here’s the irony. Is that the Democratic Party and the Democratic senators that supported Hagel, in spite of the fact that he has a record that’s deplorable on Israel, it comes from Democratic senators who are mostly aligned with a lot of the Jewish lobby here in Washington and around the nation, enjoy the money coming from the Jewish community. The Jewish community tends to be liberal, not all, but a lot of it is, and it supports Democratic candidates. But yet the Democratic Party works against the benefit of Israel in many ways, and this is an example of it.


— Tony Perkins

102 simoom  Thu, Feb 28, 2013 2:31:18pm

re: #97 simoom

[Link: www.chicagotribune.com…]

French forces have killed Abdelhamid Abou Zeid, one of the most feared commanders of al Qaeda’s north Africa wing, during an operation against Islamist fighters in mountainous northern Mali, Algeria’s Ennahar television said on Thursday.

Abou Zeid was among 40 militants killed three days ago in the foothills of the Adrar des Ifoghas mountains near the Algerian border, said Ennahar, which is well connected with Algeria’s security services.

French and Chadian troops have been hunting fighters there after a lightning campaign to dislodge them from northern Mali.

103 Charles Johnson  Thu, Feb 28, 2013 2:31:36pm
104 Gus  Thu, Feb 28, 2013 2:31:43pm

What right wing antisemitism?

105 FriendsofHummus  Thu, Feb 28, 2013 2:32:21pm

re: #101 Gus

— Tony Perkins

I can tell you one thing, Tony Perkins is no friend of Israel and the Jewish people. Say what you want about Hagel but he never used David Duke’s mailing list like Tony did. And Duke’s hugely popularly with ant Israel activists around the globe.

106 Gus  Thu, Feb 28, 2013 2:33:08pm

TONY PERKINS… IT’S TEH JUICE AND THE JUICE LOBBY!!

Youtube Video
107 Glenn Beck's Grand Unifying Theory of Obdicut  Thu, Feb 28, 2013 2:33:28pm

re: #104 Gus

What right wing antisemitism?

In case anyone thinks that’s a fringe group:


[Link: www.hrc.org…]

Mitt Romney delivered a video message to attendees at the Family Research Council’s Values Voter Summit this afternoon. Romney’s remarks follow an earlier appearance from Paul Ryan at the event.

In his message, Romney thanked Tony Perkins and the Family Research Council for their “leadership.” He went on to tell the audience that our nation needs a president who upholds “traditional values,” saying: “We will defend marriage, not try to redefine it.”

108 simoom  Thu, Feb 28, 2013 2:33:56pm

re: #103 Charles Johnson

I’m assuming there must be constraints on how far Sargent is allowed to go in engaging with his WaPo coworkers.

109 FriendsofHummus  Thu, Feb 28, 2013 2:34:20pm

re: #100 Glenn Beck’s Grand Unifying Theory of Obdicut

It is not quite fifty years since Congressman Lewis was beaten down for having the temerity to insist that he was the equal of a white man. Are we really to pretend that all that poisonous racism has disappeared? When nailbombs that could kill hundred get planted in the northeast, while voter suppression affecting minorities outrageously is endorsed at the highest levels of the GOP? Really?

Can it be that the Supreme Court justices are ignorant of the cases that were raised under section 5? If so, how can they be questioning its relevance, whatever the arguments as to constitutionality?

It really makes me worried for the next generation of lawyers and judges. Remember, Scalia and Roberts have young clerks writing and researching for them. I have to say that I think a lot of young Americans of which I am one are ignorant to how recent the Civil Rights era was and how hard African Americans and others had to fight for their Civil Rights. Lewis was lucky to have survived but others like MLK, Medger Evers, and a hostful of others weren’t so lucky.

110 Glenn Beck's Grand Unifying Theory of Obdicut  Thu, Feb 28, 2013 2:34:56pm

re: #101 Gus

The irony would be after a furor about Hagel saying “Jewish lobby”, Perkins says “Jewish lobby”. It’s writing itself at this point. Wow.

111 Political Atheist  Thu, Feb 28, 2013 2:35:25pm

re: #81 jamesfirecat

Besides it’s worth remembering that one might have an immortal soul whether God is out there or not. Especially in the context of how TV preachers describe God.

112 Gus  Thu, Feb 28, 2013 2:37:58pm

re: #107 Glenn Beck’s Grand Unifying Theory of Obdicut

In case anyone thinks that’s a fringe group:

[Link: www.hrc.org…]

Bleh. Remember when Romney freaked out on that radio show? Was about Mormonism…

113 Charles Johnson  Thu, Feb 28, 2013 2:41:04pm

Sullivan pretty much echoes my take: Bob Woodward, Demonstrable Liar.

114 Gus  Thu, Feb 28, 2013 2:42:56pm

Shorter Tony Perkins… Jewish MONEY. (cough)

115 Eclectic Cyborg  Thu, Feb 28, 2013 2:44:59pm

re: #113 Charles Johnson

Sullivan pretty much echoes my take: Bob Woodward, Demonstrable Liar.

Do you think Woodward is just desperately trying to stay relevant? I hesitate to use the term “attention whore” but he certainly seems to enjoy the spotlight.

116 Charles Johnson  Thu, Feb 28, 2013 2:48:01pm

re: #115 Eclectic Cyborg

Most likely explanation is that he’s doing it to sell books. IMHO.

117 gwangung  Thu, Feb 28, 2013 2:48:44pm

re: #109 HappyWarrior

It really makes me worried for the next generation of lawyers and judges. Remember, Scalia and Roberts have young clerks writing and researching for them. I have to say that I think a lot of young Americans of which I am one are ignorant to how recent the Civil Rights era was and how hard African Americans and others had to fight for their Civil Rights. Lewis was lucky to have survived but others like MLK, Medger Evers, and a hostful of others weren’t so lucky.

I think Americans don’t really realize HOW SHORT a time that civil rights was given. Voting rights, housing rights didn’t really get implemented until the late 60s, early 70s…and it only took until 1980 for cries of reverse discrimination and reverse racism to roll some of that back.

I’ll be blunt. Given how deep the racism was and how deeply rooted both social and government policy was anti-black, you’re an idiot to think the effects could be gotten rid of in only 15 years.

See what Coates is talking about here on how deep the anti-black rot was:

[Link: m.theatlantic.com…]

118 Gus  Thu, Feb 28, 2013 2:51:54pm
119 Targetpractice  Thu, Feb 28, 2013 2:52:29pm

re: #116 Charles Johnson

Most likely explanation is that he’s doing it to sell books. IMHO.

Think that was the point of the initial article, to drum up support for his book by tapping into the unbridled id that is the current GOP base. When he lost traction on the and started drawing flak, he tried to make his article “heroic” by saying how he’d defied the White House’s attempts to dissuade him from printing a article they didn’t like and how such things might have stopped a less experienced reporter. Thing is, Politico saw a potential “scandal” and ran with it as such, which turned his brave tale of standing up to White House opposition into him getting scared at a kindly worded bit of advice.

120 Targetpractice  Thu, Feb 28, 2013 2:53:05pm

re: #118 Gus

What’s the matter, Erick? You’ve lost control of the very monster you helped create?

121 jamesfirecat  Thu, Feb 28, 2013 2:55:49pm

re: #120 Targetpractice

What’s the matter, Erick? You’ve lost control of the very monster you helped create?

He must be all out of sedagives.

122 FriendsofHummus  Thu, Feb 28, 2013 2:56:45pm

re: #117 gwangung

I think Americans don’t really realize HOW SHORT a time that civil rights was given. Voting rights, housing rights didn’t really get implemented until the late 60s, early 70s…and it only took until 1980 for cries of reverse discrimination and reverse racism to roll some of that back.

I’ll be blunt. Given how deep the racism was and how deeply rooted both social and government policy was anti-black, you’re an idiot to think the effects could be gotten rid of in only 15 years.

We want to believe that we achieved racially harmony and the whole nation embraced MLK’s message quickly but for crying out loud Congress had to overwrite Reagan’s veto on the holiday. And the Republican party nominee just four years ago voted against it as a member of Congress. Of course, the funny thing is now you see right wingers tryign to claim MLK as their own which is the most hilarious since many of these same people were the ones calling civil rights activists, communists in the 60’s and beyond.

123 Varek Raith  Thu, Feb 28, 2013 2:56:54pm

re: #120 Targetpractice

What’s the matter, Erick? You’ve lost control of the very monster you helped create?

You called down the thunder, now reap the whirlwind.

124 A Mom Anon  Thu, Feb 28, 2013 2:57:27pm

re: #118 Gus

He’d better get used to sighing, A LOT. He helped to create these fucking monsters, so GOOD that they’re turning on him for a change. I’m finding it kind of hard to have much empathy for someone who was/is right in there being a cheerleader for this brand of fucking nightmare.

125 Gus  Thu, Feb 28, 2013 2:57:31pm

re: #120 Targetpractice

What’s the matter, Erick? You’ve lost control of the very monster you helped create?

I iz goin’ te git my wifes shotgun if the CENSUS man comes to mah door!

126 FriendsofHummus  Thu, Feb 28, 2013 2:57:44pm

re: #118 Gus

I hate to use a cliche but you really reap what you sow Erick. I do feel a little bad for him having to read that kooky shit though but hey welcome to the real world buddy.

127 Charles Johnson  Thu, Feb 28, 2013 2:58:09pm
128 FriendsofHummus  Thu, Feb 28, 2013 2:58:15pm

re: #124 A Mom Anon

He’d better get used to sighing, A LOT. He helped to create these fucking monsters, so GOOD that they’re turning on him for a change. I’m finding it kind of hard to have much empathy for someone who was/is right in there being a cheerleader for this brand of fucking nightmare.

That’s why I don’t have much empathy for him. I still have some. Bleeding heart and all that jazz.

129 Targetpractice  Thu, Feb 28, 2013 2:59:01pm

re: #127 Charles Johnson

Somebody call the Onion, tell them to pack it, reality has trumped fantasy.

130 FriendsofHummus  Thu, Feb 28, 2013 2:59:19pm

You create the beast. You clean up the beast’s shit. I expect some or even many of the right wingers who have called this out to try to twist this to be the left’s fault anyhow because there’s never any personal accountability with the right these days.

131 EPR-radar  Thu, Feb 28, 2013 3:02:07pm

re: #98 HappyWarrior

We’ve gone from the vast majority of Republicans and Democrats voting for the VRA and subsequent decades confirmation of its constitutionality to John Roberts, Antonin Scalia, saying it’s not constitutional. This is real judicial activism. A true judicial conservative like many of the judges on the Warren and later Burger court would understand precedence and the fact that the law has worked as intended. And yes, I’m angry, angry that Chief Justice Roberts would try to twist this in to oh woe the poor South is being discriminated against and Scalia’s claim that it’s just a pretty worded law and that crap about racial entitlements. These are both men that Republican presidential candidates want their model justices to be. There’s a lot of reasons to oppose the Republican party but considering judicial appointments are for life or last years after that executive leaves, Republican judiciary picks are a very simple and obvious reason to oppose that party.

Roberts and Scalia are making the VRA out to be an instance of ‘get whitey’. Perhaps Scalia will even use that term in his writing on the case.

132 FriendsofHummus  Thu, Feb 28, 2013 3:03:44pm

re: #131 EPR-radar

Roberts and Scalia are making the VRA out to be an instance of ‘get whitey’. Perhaps Scalia will even use that term in his writing on the case.

Not just get whitey but get Southern whitey. Roberts’ stupid question was a whistle to all the Southern whites who can’t stand being told that their history isn’t so great.

133 A Mom Anon  Thu, Feb 28, 2013 3:04:28pm

re: #128 HappyWarrior

I’ll have empathy for him the day he starts wading through Red State and denouncing the hateful assholishness that’s flourished there for years. When he steps up and says he was a jerk and he was wrong, then I’ll let my empathy kick in. Til then, not so much. This kind of shit tore my family up and ruined friendships that will never be repaired because people I cared for took his crap at Red State and the sites his fellow conservatives run as gospel truth. So the hell with him til he wises up and realizes his party is poisoned and he provided his fair share of the toxins.

134 Eclectic Cyborg  Thu, Feb 28, 2013 3:06:04pm

re: #129 Targetpractice

Somebody call the Onion, tell them to pack it, reality has trumped fantasy.

That could actually be a funny story over there:

ONION TAPS OUT TO REALITY. ‘WE’RE NOT WORTHY’

135 EPR-radar  Thu, Feb 28, 2013 3:06:53pm

re: #128 HappyWarrior

That’s why I don’t have much empathy for him. I still have some. Bleeding heart and all that jazz.

Zero empathy from me. Movement conservatism is a plague on the political landscape that may yet ruin the US and already has contributed more than its fair share to global destruction via unchecked climate change.

136 ProBosniaLiberal  Thu, Feb 28, 2013 3:08:52pm

I see the Hague has acquitted a Serbian Mass Murderer today.

Fortunately, one of the Razakar Architects of the 1971 Bengali Genocide has been sentenced to death. Unfortunately, Jamaat-i-Islami has started rioting, and there are 15 dead.

Time for the US to declare Jamaat-I-Islami a Terrorist Organization. Starting pulling in all American Sympathizers to them in for questioning, and determine if any can be charged for supporting Terrorism in relation to the riots right now, or for Genocide in 1971.

In regards to the Genocide, us putting charges on people involved in it would not be unheard of. The Metropolitan Police in London have mulled bringing charges to those who had culpability in that Genocide who reside in London.

137 ProBosniaLiberal  Thu, Feb 28, 2013 3:19:12pm

re: #136 ProBosniaLiberal

In fact, these little riots have found my last nerve. I’ll contact a Congressman. Better than nothing, right?

138 Killgore Trout  Thu, Feb 28, 2013 3:23:46pm

This is kind of interesting
Report: UK stripping terrorism suspects of citizenship, US killing some of them

139 Killgore Trout  Thu, Feb 28, 2013 3:27:32pm

Since it seems we’re going over the fiscal cliff tomorrow you’d the there’d be a lot of coverage about what to expect, economic impact, long and sort term consequences, when/how it might be resolved. Almost nothing. Mostly just coverage of the “he said/she said” finger pointing.

140 Varek Raith  Thu, Feb 28, 2013 3:28:54pm

re: #139 Killgore Trout

Since it seems we’re going over the fiscal cliff tomorrow you’d the there’d be a lot of coverage about what to expect, economic impact, long and sort term consequences, when/how it might be resolved. Almost nothing. Mostly just coverage of the “he said/she said” finger pointing.

Actually, the media is acting kind of like you are on this issue.
MBFing the hell out of it.
;)

141 NJDhockeyfan  Thu, Feb 28, 2013 3:29:48pm

re: #139 Killgore Trout

Since it seems we’re going over the fiscal cliff tomorrow you’d the there’d be a lot of coverage about what to expect, economic impact, long and sort term consequences, when/how it might be resolved. Almost nothing. Mostly just coverage of the “he said/she said” finger pointing.

Tomorrow is my 50th birthday. I hope that’s not my bday present.

142 EPR-radar  Thu, Feb 28, 2013 3:30:12pm

re: #139 Killgore Trout

Since it seems we’re going over the fiscal cliff tomorrow you’d the there’d be a lot of coverage about what to expect, economic impact, long and sort term consequences, when/how it might be resolved. Almost nothing. Mostly just coverage of the “he said/she said” finger pointing.

From a cynical POV, this makes perfect sense. Trouble is inevitable, who gets the blame for it is to be determined.

143 Killgore Trout  Thu, Feb 28, 2013 3:32:57pm

re: #141 NJDhockeyfan

Tomorrow is my 50th birthday. I hope that’s not my bday present.

Happy Bday! Any special plans?

144 ProBosniaLiberal  Thu, Feb 28, 2013 3:34:56pm

Apparently, the big ol’ scary Muslim Brotherhood is frightened by….the Harlem Shake.

This is where I point and laugh at them.

145 NJDhockeyfan  Thu, Feb 28, 2013 3:35:59pm

re: #143 Killgore Trout

Happy Bday! Any special plans?

Thanks!

Dinner and a movie on Saturday. We have a new restaurant in town and the steaks look real good.

146 Killgore Trout  Thu, Feb 28, 2013 3:36:19pm

re: #142 EPR-radar

From a cynical POV, this makes perfect sense. Trouble is inevitable, who gets the blame for it is to be determined.

I just want to know how to prepare myself. I was planing on a business trip to London this spring, not sure if that’s wise. If there’s another economic downturn I need to hold on to my money to ride it out.

147 Kragar (Antichrist )  Thu, Feb 28, 2013 3:38:05pm

South Dakota Legislature Approves ‘Women Can’t Think on Weekends’ Bill

South Dakota’s state senate today passed a bill that would extend the mandatory 72 hour waiting period women face when seeking an abortion in the state to specifically exclude weekend days and holidays from counting towards the 72 hour period. Apparently, South Dakota’s Republican lawmakers think women aren’t able to think as well on weekends.

148 Varek Raith  Thu, Feb 28, 2013 3:38:37pm

re: #146 Killgore Trout

I just want to know how to prepare myself. I was planing on a business trip to London this spring, not sure if that’s wise. If there’s another economic downturn I need to hold on to my money to ride it out.

I’d wait and see how this plays out over the next couple weeks.

149 Killgore Trout  Thu, Feb 28, 2013 3:38:38pm

re: #145 NJDhockeyfan

Thanks!

Dinner and a movie on Saturday. We have a new restaurant in town and the steaks look real good.

That does look good.

150 Targetpractice  Thu, Feb 28, 2013 3:39:29pm

re: #146 Killgore Trout

I just want to know how to prepare myself. I was planing on a business trip to London this spring, not sure if that’s wise. If there’s another economic downturn I need to hold on to my money to ride it out.

Before or after the end of next month?

151 EPR-radar  Thu, Feb 28, 2013 3:39:33pm

re: #146 Killgore Trout

I just want to know how to prepare myself. I was planing on a business trip to London this spring, not sure if that’s wise. If there’s another economic downturn I need to hold on to my money to ride it out.

I see. I’d be surprised if there is any useful information out there at this time. If/when this hits, a bunch of agencies are going to be making unplanned budget cuts. Seems impossible to predict in detail what will happen.

152 EPR-radar  Thu, Feb 28, 2013 3:42:21pm

re: #147 Kragar (Antichrist )
re: #147 Kragar (Antichrist )

South Dakota Legislature Approves ‘Women Can’t Think on Weekends’ Bill

Mission creep. 3 days becomes 3 business days, becomes 9 days, becomes 9 days that are each the first days of a month, and voila, we have an abortion ban.

No compromise with these jokers.

153 Gus  Thu, Feb 28, 2013 3:43:45pm

Scenes from the rally to repeal the NY SAFE Act
posted Feb 28, 2013

154 Gus  Thu, Feb 28, 2013 3:44:22pm

Image: capitol_gun_rally_2013-02-28_22.JPG

155 klys  Thu, Feb 28, 2013 3:44:41pm

re: #147 Kragar (Antichrist )

South Dakota Legislature Approves ‘Women Can’t Think on Weekends’ Bill

If you want that abortion then, by God, you’ll pay for it!

//

156 Kragar (Antichrist )  Thu, Feb 28, 2013 3:45:45pm

re: #152 EPR-radar

re: #147 Kragar (Antichrist )

Mission creep. 3 days becomes 3 business days, becomes 9 days, becomes 9 days that are each the first days of a month, and voila, we have an abortion ban.

No compromise with these jokers.

“Sorry, you ran out past the 20 week window we allow.”

157 lawhawk  Thu, Feb 28, 2013 3:46:31pm

So, Chuck Todd was tweeting earlier today about how the Administration and Congress is having trouble answering questions over how they could proffer $60b for Sandy relief, but find $85b in cuts to be apocalyptic.


Sandy relief actually was $50b - $9b+ was for re-filling the NFIP (flood insurance program). The remainder was to help the disaster stricken areas rebuild and get taxpayers back on their feet. But I digress.

After all, billions of dollars in damage was done to infrastructure and hit the most densely populated area in the nation. That’s a critical part of the national and local economy at stake. The longer the delay in getting aid flowing, the longer the recovery will take and undermine the economic recovery. That means tax revenues will be lower until businesses and individuals are back on their feet.

Consider just one portion of all that damage: Billions in damage was done to the MTA, which moves more than 5 million people daily. NJ Transit moves another 1 million a day. PATH moves another 250,000 a day. Combined, that’s more than all but 18 state populations. Each day.

So, in that respect - yeah, the dollar figures are comparable. The Sandy expenditures were critical in getting the region restored just as avoiding $85 billion in cuts across a wide range of programs can lead to dire consequences.

But in another respect, we’re talking about two completely different things. One is to help restore a damaged region so that it can again fully operate (including getting businesses up and running so that the economy - and the tax revenues - can flow).

The sequester is across the board cuts that don’t care what is cut - everything is cut equally. NOAA budget? It’s cut just as surely as HUD. Or Education or Energy. Or Commerce.

And the sequester, unless a suitable replacement is enacted, will be a cut that happens year after year. The $85b is only the cost during this current fiscal year (or what’s left of it).

158 lawhawk  Thu, Feb 28, 2013 3:50:46pm

Oh, and this gets to something I’ve been saying for a while: there are a whole lot of people in Congress (especially a whole lot of GOPers) who have no problem with the sequester at all.

159 Kragar (Antichrist )  Thu, Feb 28, 2013 3:52:18pm

WND’s Erik Rush condemns American liberals for making South Africa end Apartheid

WARNING: LINK IS TO WND

160 efuseakay  Thu, Feb 28, 2013 3:55:29pm

re: #102 simoom

[Link: www.chicagotribune.com…]

Good news, but as soon as France pulls out, they will all come flooding back into Mali, I’m afraid.

161 NJDhockeyfan  Thu, Feb 28, 2013 3:55:50pm

This is considered comedy?

Rivers Called On To Apologize For Comparing Klum’s Dress To The Holocaust

LOS ANGELES (CBS Los Angeles) – Joan Rivers might not be invited to Seder this year.

Rivers is in hot water over comments she made earlier in the week that used Nazi Germany to compliment a dress worn by supermodel Heidi Klum. During a segment on her E! Entertainment Television show “Fashion Police” on Monday, Rivers raised eyebrows with her comment about a dress worn by Klum, a prominent German-American.

“The last time a German looked this hot was when they were pushing Jews into the ovens,” Rivers said.

The comment was met with laughter from Rivers and her co-hosts. Rivers nor E! issued an apology for the remark, even as the segment has gone on to air another four times this week on the network.

162 Hercules Grytpype-Thynneghazi  Thu, Feb 28, 2013 3:58:46pm

re: #31 makeitstop

Ohhhhh. Pontiff Ex….. Now I git it.

Actually “pontifex” is just the Latin word for high priest, and the source of our word “pontiff”. They still do Latin in the Vatican.

163 efuseakay  Thu, Feb 28, 2013 3:59:14pm

re: #161 NJDhockeyfan

This is considered comedy?

Rivers Called On To Apologize For Comparing Klum’s Dress To The Holocaust

GWAR should have taken over her show.

164 blueraven  Thu, Feb 28, 2013 4:02:22pm

re: #141 NJDhockeyfan

Tomorrow is my 50th birthday. I hope that’s not my bday present.

Happy Birthday!

Party hearty tonight cause tomorrow you are over the hill and its all over but the…//

165 Kragar (Antichrist )  Thu, Feb 28, 2013 4:03:40pm

re: #163 efuseakay

GWAR should have taken over her show.

With a battle cry go forth, which is “Give the people what they want.”

Youtube Video
166 Varek Raith  Thu, Feb 28, 2013 4:03:51pm

re: #141 NJDhockeyfan

Tomorrow is my 50th birthday. I hope that’s not my bday present.

Image: 3r9uh9.jpg

167 NJDhockeyfan  Thu, Feb 28, 2013 4:04:07pm

re: #164 blueraven

Happy Birthday!

Party hearty tonight cause tomorrow you are over the hill and its all over but the…//

I met an elderly woman the other day who turned 88 last week. She said I looked 27. I’m going hang on to that for a while.

168 simoom  Thu, Feb 28, 2013 4:04:48pm

I was watching the Fox Special Report panel and Bret Baier just used that Plouffe tweet to attack the White House, calling Plouffe a “senior white house adviser.”

The thing is, Plouffe left the admin in Jan., so he doesn’t have to answer to Baier’s feigned outrage anymore:

169 blueraven  Thu, Feb 28, 2013 4:04:52pm

re: #167 NJDhockeyfan

I met an elderly woman the other day who turned 88 last week. She said I looked 27. I’m going hang on to that for a while.

Its all relative, I guess.

170 blueraven  Thu, Feb 28, 2013 4:06:05pm

re: #168 simoom

I was watch the Fox Special Report panel and Bret Baier just used that Plouffe tweet to attack the White House, calling Plouffe a “senior white house adviser.”

The thing is, Plouffe left the admin in Jan., so he doesn’t have to answer to Baier’s feigned outrage anymore:

Yes, and even Krauthammer said there was absolutely no threat implied or otherwise in that email.

171 Hercules Grytpype-Thynneghazi  Thu, Feb 28, 2013 4:06:51pm

re: #157 lawhawk

So, Chuck Todd was tweeting earlier today about how the Administration and Congress is having trouble answering questions over how they could proffer $60b for Sandy relief, but find $85b in cuts to be apocalyptic.

Sandy relief actually was $50b - $9b+ was for re-filling the NFIP (flood insurance program). The remainder was to help the disaster stricken areas rebuild and get taxpayers back on their feet. But I digress.

After all, billions of dollars in damage was done to infrastructure and hit the most densely populated area in the nation. That’s a critical part of the national and local economy at stake. The longer the delay in getting aid flowing, the longer the recovery will take and undermine the economic recovery. That means tax revenues will be lower until businesses and individuals are back on their feet.

Consider just one portion of all that damage: Billions in damage was done to the MTA, which moves more than 5 million people daily. NJ Transit moves another 1 million a day. PATH moves another 250,000 a day. Combined, that’s more than all but 18 state populations. Each day.

So, in that respect - yeah, the dollar figures are comparable. The Sandy expenditures were critical in getting the region restored just as avoiding $85 billion in cuts across a wide range of programs can lead to dire consequences.

But in another respect, we’re talking about two completely different things. One is to help restore a damaged region so that it can again fully operate (including getting businesses up and running so that the economy - and the tax revenues - can flow).

The sequester is across the board cuts that don’t care what is cut - everything is cut equally. NOAA budget? It’s cut just as surely as HUD. Or Education or Energy. Or Commerce.

And the sequester, unless a suitable replacement is enacted, will be a cut that happens year after year. The $85b is only the cost during this current fiscal year (or what’s left of it).

News flash: If you spend money, you can buy shit with it. $60 billion worth of shit for relief of hurricane victims, or $85 billion worth of shit for government services for all of us.

172 simoom  Thu, Feb 28, 2013 4:07:51pm

re: #170 blueraven

Yes, and even Krauthammer said there was absolutely no threat implied or otherwise in that email.

Yeah, I was surprised they didn’t quite keep it together (the threat narrative), at least through to the Hannity interview.

173 Gus  Thu, Feb 28, 2013 4:14:55pm

Some idiot that I had to block the other morning. Check out all of his Tweets over what started as a polite fact check from me. I sent him that first one and then boom! One right after the other within seconds.

174 Glenn Beck's Grand Unifying Theory of Obdicut  Thu, Feb 28, 2013 4:16:14pm

re: #173 Gus

Er…

Real tough twitter guy.

175 blueraven  Thu, Feb 28, 2013 4:16:36pm

re: #172 simoom

Yeah, I was surprised they didn’t quite keep it together (the threat narrative), at least through to the Hannity interview.

The thing is, all pols including congress and WH staff push back against reporters who they think are not correctly stating the facts. And reporters push back against the pols.
The tone between all of them may be nastier these days, just like everything else. But there was no threat or intimidation in that email. In fact the opposite is true, it was quite a friendly and civil disagreement.

176 Gus  Thu, Feb 28, 2013 4:16:55pm

re: #174 Glenn Beck’s Grand Unifying Theory of Obdicut

Er…

Some manic asshole.

177 Gus  Thu, Feb 28, 2013 4:17:39pm

re: #174 Glenn Beck’s Grand Unifying Theory of Obdicut

Er…

Check it out. He’s still thinking about me.

178 Gus  Thu, Feb 28, 2013 4:18:19pm

2 days later. Wow. Cucko!

179 Interesting Times  Thu, Feb 28, 2013 4:19:05pm
180 Kragar (Antichrist )  Thu, Feb 28, 2013 4:20:21pm

International Monetary Fund: ‘Sequester’ cuts will slow global economic growth

The broad US “sequester” spending cuts that take effect beginning Friday will slow growth in the world’s biggest economy and hit the global economy, the International Monetary Fund said Thursday.

“There will be an impact on global growth,” IMF spokesman Bill Murray said. “We’ll have to reevaluate our growth forecast for the United States and also our other forecasts.”

Murray emphasized that the $85 billion in US spending cuts, known as sequestration, would be phased in over seven months. The sequestration also includes $109 billion in cuts over the following eight years.

181 Interesting Times  Thu, Feb 28, 2013 4:21:30pm

re: #178 Gus

2 days later. Wow. Cucko!

You should ask him if he’s in a) a right-to-work state and b) if he’s doing all this on company time :P

182 Killgore Trout  Thu, Feb 28, 2013 4:24:13pm

re: #175 blueraven

The thing is, all pols including congress and WH staff push back against reporters who they think are not correctly stating the facts. And reporters push back against the pols.
The tone between all of them may be nastier these days, just like everything else. But there was no threat or intimidation in that email. In fact the opposite is true, it was quite a friendly and civil disagreement.

I’m sure it’s fairly common, there have been a handful of others coming forward today to say someone on the White House leaned on them about something or other. I’m sure if you dig through the archives there is no shortage of similar allegations from previous presidents. I think Woodward’s ego may also be a factor. He’s been a DC rockstar celebrity and journalistic hero for a very long time. Until recently he’s probably always been treated with kid gloves. The era of his brand of investigative journalism is over. The mainstream journalists are easily to roll over because they’re lazy and not very interested in anything other than collecting soundbites and the partisan media is a willing proxy for their respective parties. Woodward isn’t needed or respected anymore. I think he was a little hurt to be treated like everyone else.

183 Kragar (Antichrist )  Thu, Feb 28, 2013 4:26:20pm

Constituents laugh at Republican’s ignorance of trans-vaginal ultrasounds

Duffy was asked whether he supported the Woman’s Right to Know her Unborn Child Act, which would require a woman to receive a trans-vaginal ultrasound prior to terminating her pregnancy. Top Republicans in the Wisconsin legislature have said the bill was a “priority” and “long overdue.”

But Duffy said he didn’t know what a trans-vaginal ultrasound was.

“I haven’t had one,” he remarked.

His comment was greeted with laughter.

“I haven’t heard of it,” Duffy added. “And just like I told you I’m pro life, and I know that you are too, but I’m not willing to say I’ll support what you’re talking about because I haven’t seen the bill, even though we’re probably in agreement on that issue.”

Nothing Orwellian about the name of that bill at all.

184 Glenn Beck's Grand Unifying Theory of Obdicut  Thu, Feb 28, 2013 4:27:54pm

re: #182 Killgore Trout

But the White House didn’t lean on Woodward.

185 dragonath  Thu, Feb 28, 2013 4:28:31pm

re: #180 Kragar (Antichrist )

International Monetary Fund: ‘Sequester’ cuts will slow global economic growth

When even the IMF says you’re too austere, you know ur doing it wrong.

186 blueraven  Thu, Feb 28, 2013 4:28:39pm

re: #182 Killgore Trout

I’m sure it’s fairly common, there have been a handful of others coming forward today to say someone on the White House leaned on them about something or other. I’m sure if you dig through the archives there is no shortage of similar allegations from previous presidents. I think Woodward’s ego may also be a factor. He’s been a DC rockstar celebrity and journalistic hero for a very long time. Until recently he’s probably always been treated with kid gloves. The era of his brand of investigative journalism is over. The mainstream journalists are easily to roll over because they’re lazy and not very interested in anything other than collecting soundbites and the partisan media is a willing proxy for their respective parties. Woodward isn’t needed or respected anymore. I think he was a little hurt to be treated like everyone else.

I think that’s a load of crap.
There are many good reporters out there, and Woodward brought this all on himself.

187 klys  Thu, Feb 28, 2013 4:30:22pm

re: #182 Killgore Trout

I’m sure it’s fairly common, there have been a handful of others coming forward today to say someone on the White House leaned on them about something or other. I’m sure if you dig through the archives there is no shortage of similar allegations from previous presidents. I think Woodward’s ego may also be a factor. He’s been a DC rockstar celebrity and journalistic hero for a very long time. Until recently he’s probably always been treated with kid gloves. The era of his brand of investigative journalism is over. The mainstream journalists are easily to roll over because they’re lazy and not very interested in anything other than collecting soundbites and the partisan media is a willing proxy for their respective parties. Woodward isn’t needed or respected anymore. I think he was a little hurt to be treated like everyone else.

Having read the full exchange of e-mails, I’m not sure if I would even say there’s leaning going on here. I mean, the sentence in question reads:

But I do truly believe you should rethink your comment about saying saying that Potus asking for revenues is moving the goal post. I know you may not believe this, but as a friend, I think you will regret staking out that claim.

I mean, if someone I considered a friend and respected was about to make a claim that the facts didn’t support and logic said was bullshit, I’d say that they’d regret saying that in public too. And because I try to be a good friend, I’d tell them so, because better to hear it from me and think about it than to deal with the egg on their face in public.

Of course, your read may be different. All we have are words on a page, after all.

188 Glenn Beck's Grand Unifying Theory of Obdicut  Thu, Feb 28, 2013 4:31:21pm

re: #187 klys

And Woodward should regret saying that bullshit, because it’s bullshit.

189 dragonath  Thu, Feb 28, 2013 4:31:36pm

re: #182 Killgore Trout

The mainstream journalists are easily to roll over because they’re lazy and not very interested in anything other than collecting soundbites and the partisan media is a willing proxy for their respective parties.

Sweet, this is coming from Mr. “I troll for articles to confirm my pre-existing biases about OWS”

190 Vicious Babushka  Thu, Feb 28, 2013 4:32:09pm

We already know what rats think, Bryan, because we can read your tweets.

191 calochortus  Thu, Feb 28, 2013 4:34:09pm

re: #190 Vicious Babushka

I’m sure he doesn’t ever use anything that is the result of scientific or medical advances.

192 Kragar (Antichrist )  Thu, Feb 28, 2013 4:34:47pm

re: #190 Vicious Babushka

We already know what rats think, Bryan, because we can read your tweets.

Because science is THE DEVIL!

193 Killgore Trout  Thu, Feb 28, 2013 4:38:21pm

re: #187 klys

Also remember that the prelude to that email was a heated exchange where Woodward was being yelled at over his planned story. When anger didn’t work the tactic was changed to see if sowing the seed of self doubt. The whole reason White House aides talk to the press is to get their message out in a favorable way. It’s their job.

194 Glenn Beck's Grand Unifying Theory of Obdicut  Thu, Feb 28, 2013 4:42:27pm

re: #193 Killgore Trout

But Woodward’s position is actually wrong. Obama hasn’t moved any goalposts. It’s as much of a ‘tactic’ to tell him that as me calling my senator to talk about an issue is a ‘tactic’. It’s meaningless to call it a tactic, except to awkwardly cover your ass for falling for this nontroversy early on.

195 Kragar (Antichrist )  Thu, Feb 28, 2013 4:42:49pm

National Review: Victims Of Violent Military Rapes Struggle In Life Because Of ‘Their Own Bad Decision-Making’

… expert opinion is not enough to convince the scribes at National Review Online, which issued its own rebuttal to the Times piece and proclaimed — without a shred of evidence — that the hardships befallen upon Jackson and as many as 1 in 5 of all female servicemembers are attributable to their upbringing in underprivileged communities and not to their sexual assaults. And they engage in an especially pernicious form of victim-blaming in the process:

Now here is a tentative alternative hypothesis: Some of these women come from environments that made their descent into street life overdetermined, whether or not they experienced alleged sexual assault in the military. To blame alleged sexual assault for their fate rather than their own bad decision-making is ideologically satisfying, but mystifying. Having children out of wedlock, as a huge proportion of them do, also does not help in avoiding poverty and homelessness…

But let’s say that for these homeless female vets, it really was their sexual experiences in the military that caused their downward spiral into, as the Times puts it, “alcohol and substance abuse, depression and domestic violence.” Why then have those same feminists who are now lamenting the life-destroying effects of “MST” insisted on putting women into combat units?

196 b_sharp  Thu, Feb 28, 2013 4:43:41pm

re: #193 Killgore Trout

Also remember that the prelude to that email was a heated exchange where Woodward was being yelled at over his planned story. When anger didn’t work the tactic was changed to see if sowing the seed of self doubt. The whole reason White House aides talk to the press is to get their message out in a favorable way. It’s their job.

Convincing isn’t manipulation and manipulation isn’t coercion. The furor is over putative coercion.

197 Vicious Babushka  Thu, Feb 28, 2013 4:46:14pm

PROOF MLK was not a Republican


Source: [Link: books.google.com…]

198 HoosierHoops  Thu, Feb 28, 2013 4:47:53pm

15 minutes till Woodward is on Fox. I’m doing the unthinkable and recording the interview. I have respected his reporting for years and this will be interesting to hear.

199 HoosierHoops  Thu, Feb 28, 2013 4:49:28pm

re: #198 HoosierHoops

15 minutes till Woodward is on Fox. I’m doing the unthinkable and recording the interview. I have respected his reporting for years and this will be interesting to hear.

whoops 1 hour and 15 minutes away. He is on Hannity? Strange venue for a world class reporter.

200 klys  Thu, Feb 28, 2013 4:50:16pm

re: #193 Killgore Trout

Also remember that the prelude to that email was a heated exchange where Woodward was being yelled at over his planned story. When anger didn’t work the tactic was changed to see if sowing the seed of self doubt. The whole reason White House aides talk to the press is to get their message out in a favorable way. It’s their job.

The planned story of …what? That the idea for sequester originated with the White House? Nothing in the e-mail seems to take issue with that part of the story.

The objection seems to the to the part where he says that President Obama “moved the goalposts” in response to wanting to substitute in a compromise of spending cuts and revenue increases in place of the sequester. The part that has most of us scratching our heads is the part where that was the whole point of the sequester: to force a compromise, which most reasonable people really did expect to include both spending cuts and revenue increases.

I don’t see how that is moving the goalposts. If I had a friend about to put that bullshit out there, I’d tell them that. Sometimes loudly if I thought they were being a real idiot.

201 Iwouldprefernotto  Thu, Feb 28, 2013 4:50:39pm

re: #199 HoosierHoops

whoops 1 hour and 15 minutes away. He is on Hannity? Strange venue for a world class reporter.

re: #199 HoosierHoops

whoops 1 hour and 15 minutes away. He is on Hannity? Strange venue for a world class reporter.

Not if you want to sell books.

202 b_sharp  Thu, Feb 28, 2013 4:56:33pm

I don’t know whether to belch or fart.

203 simoom  Thu, Feb 28, 2013 4:59:35pm

I saw this tweet from Politico’s Dylan Byers last night and I finally understand the reference:

[Link: nymag.com…]

In early December, Judge John Sirica was told by prosecutors that a grand juror had been approached by the Post reporters but had revealed nothing. Incensed, Sirica called Woodward and Bernstein into court two weeks later and warned against any further meddling. “Had they actually obtained information from that grand juror,” he wrote later, “they would have gone to jail.” According to the Post’s lawyers, who negotiated on their behalf, Sirica almost locked them up anyway.

…

It was late at night. I was sitting in a remote farmhouse in Rapidan, Virginia, and I could hardly believe what I was reading. For four decades, Carl and Bob have insisted that the grand jurors they contacted had given them no information. For four decades, that story endured, as it was replayed in interviews and reread in library copies of All The President’s Men, and as Woodward and Bernstein and ­Bradlee became a holy trinity of newspaper journalism. But, according to the memo, it didn’t appear to be true: Z was no mystic; she was a grand juror in disguise, and had apparently broken the law by talking. Woodward and Bernstein had always denied it—in 1974, and as recently as 2011.

…

When I had a conference call with Carl and Bob last week to ask them to comment on Z’s identity, they conceded that she was a grand juror, but insisted that Carl hadn’t known it when he first went to visit her and said they’d disguised her only to protect their source. They said they’d long since forgotten the episode. “This is a footnote to a footnote,” Bob protested. But perhaps the most telling moment had occurred when I reached Carl on his own, earlier that day. Right before we hung up, he had said, wryly, “Maybe they’ll send us to jail after all.”

…

Later in the interview, Ben talked about Bob’s famous secret source, whom he claimed to have met in an underground garage in rendezvous arranged via signals involving flowerpots and newspapers. “You know I have a little problem with Deep Throat,” Ben told Barbara.

Did that potted [plant] incident ever happen? … and meeting in some garage. One meeting in the garage? Fifty meetings in the garage? I don’t know how many meetings in the garage … There’s a residual fear in my soul that that isn’t quite straight.

…

Bob turned to me. I had worked for him; he had given an impromptu toast at my wedding. You know me and the world we live in, he said. People who didn’t like him and didn’t like the Post—the “fuckers out there,” as Ben had called them—were going to seize on these comments. “Don’t give fodder to the fuckers,” Bob said, and once he lit on this phrase he repeated it a couple of times. The quotes from the interview with Barbara were nothing more than outtakes from Ben’s book, he said. Ben hadn’t used them, and so I shouldn’t use them, either.

That argument didn’t make sense, and I said so. Bob told me it was his “strong recommendation” that I not use the quotes, then that it was his “emphatic recommendation.” Then, when that got no truck: “Don’t use the quotes, Jeff.”

He closed by making a direct, personal appeal to Ben. “You’re this legend,” he said. “You’re the editor.” Ben’s doubts were going to mean something to people. Ben did his aw-shucks routine, but he had clearly made the calculation that Nixon’s resignation, and the reporting that had contributed to it, weren’t contingent on whether Deep Throat had watched Bob’s balcony for flowerpot updates. That was on Bob and Carl, not on Ben or on the Post.

204 Vicious Babushka  Thu, Feb 28, 2013 4:59:46pm

re: #202 b_sharp

I don’t know whether to belch or fart.

Are you alone? You can do both!

205 HoosierHoops  Thu, Feb 28, 2013 5:00:08pm

re: #201 Iwouldprefernotto

re: #199 HoosierHoops

Not if you want to sell books.

Maybe..I guess..Has he ever gone on Fox to sell books before? He doesn’t strike me to ever needing to go to a RW site to peddle his wares.
I’ll keep an open mind to this..One of my favorite movies is All the Presidents men..After 40 years why would he sell out to the RW? Like I said..I’ll record this and keep an open mind.. But Hannity? Why the hell him?

206 Gus  Thu, Feb 28, 2013 5:01:04pm

re: #203 simoom

I saw this tweet from Politico’s Dylan Byers last night and I finally understand the reference:

[Link: nymag.com…]

Ha. Just read the Tweet and lights went off because I just finished reading that NY Mag piece. “Don’t give fodder to the fuckers!”

207 blueraven  Thu, Feb 28, 2013 5:03:26pm

re: #193 Killgore Trout

Also remember that the prelude to that email was a heated exchange where Woodward was being yelled at over his planned story. When anger didn’t work the tactic was changed to see if sowing the seed of self doubt. The whole reason White House aides talk to the press is to get their message out in a favorable way. It’s their job.

Wow, now you are psychoanalyzing. Or maybe you were there to hear the phone conversation? Maybe they were both yelling.
Some people cant admit that they may have possibly made a mistake.

208 Vicious Babushka  Thu, Feb 28, 2013 5:03:28pm

re: #205 HoosierHoops

Maybe..I guess..Has he ever gone on Fox to sell books before? He doesn’t strike me to ever needing to go to a RW site to peddle his wares.
I’ll keep an open mind to this..One of my favorite movies is All the Presidents men..After 40 years why would he sell out to the RW? Like I said..I’ll record this and keep an open mind.. But Hannity? Why the hell him?

Make up a fake threat.
Wingnuts get all umgebroyzelt.
Profit!

209 NJDhockeyfan  Thu, Feb 28, 2013 5:04:15pm

Russian meteorite was just a common large space rock

You can safely disregard any conspiracy theories regarding the meteorite that lit up the sky in Russia earlier this month. Astronomers have confirmed that the meteorite was actually just a piece of chondrite space rock, an item commonly found flying around the Solar System.

Despite its seemingly ordinary nature, this particular piece of space rock had an interesting life. Scientists from Ural Federal University, who recovered pieces of the rock earlier in the week, are busy finding out facts about the space rock. For instance, this one spent 4.5 billion years floating around the solar system before it entered Earth’s atmosphere. Plus, it was quite the whopper, weighing in at 10,000 tons.

210 Iwouldprefernotto  Thu, Feb 28, 2013 5:09:54pm

re: #205 HoosierHoops

Maybe..I guess..Has he ever gone on Fox to sell books before? He doesn’t strike me to ever needing to go to a RW site to peddle his wares.
I’ll keep an open mind to this..One of my favorite movies is All the Presidents men..After 40 years why would he sell out to the RW? Like I said..I’ll record this and keep an open mind.. But Hannity? Why the hell him?

Woodward is chasing the Dragon. Watergate was huge. Very few reporters have done what he did. He will never repeat it, but he’s going to try, even if it means completely selling out. He’s the aging athlete trying to relive his glory days. It’s just sad.

211 Gus  Thu, Feb 28, 2013 5:11:09pm

Gotta watch out with God. Remember what He did to us humans with the Noah flood. He might want to start all over again without consulting us first. Right now it looks like God is throwing rocks at Earth.

//

212 b_sharp  Thu, Feb 28, 2013 5:12:14pm

re: #211 Gus

Gotta watch out with God. Remember what He did to us humans with the Noah flood. He might want to start all over again without consulting us first. Right now it looks like God is throwing rocks at Earth.

//

Since all the water on Earth came from comets it looks like he’s slowing down in his old age.

213 Political Atheist  Thu, Feb 28, 2013 5:23:23pm

*Groan*

There is nothing like a gas tax increase over a budget shortfall because of gas conservation efforts. No good deed goes unpunished in California.

Yet another 3.5 cents in gas tax. So more expensive gas means less demand means more taxes means less gas used means budget shortfall that results in a tax increase….

Circular logic is a poor debate tactic but an excellent revenue enhancer!

Highest gas tax in the country. As inflationary and retrogressive as can be.

214 Amory Blaine  Thu, Feb 28, 2013 5:25:25pm

Could also promote further conservation efforts.

215 simoom  Thu, Feb 28, 2013 5:29:09pm

[Link: www.politico.com…]

Bob Woodward is seeking to distance himself from reports that he felt “threatened” by the White House, more than 24 hours after criticizing senior White House aide Gene Sperling for telling him he might regret questioning Obama’s account of how sequestration came about.

In an interview with his own paper, The Washington Post, Woodward says he never called Sperling’s comment a threat.

“I never characterized it as a ‘threat.’ I think that was Politico’s word,” he said, referring to the story about his initial interview with POLITICO.

216 Glenn Beck's Grand Unifying Theory of Obdicut  Thu, Feb 28, 2013 5:29:38pm

re: #213 Political Atheist

I agree. Gas taxes are an easy but short-sighted revenue mechanism. If they were part of a broad pigovian system it’d be different, but as they stand they just serve to raise costs for ordinary citizens— and as those who have to commute the farthest are in the lowest-paying jobs, it is, as you say, regressive.

217 Political Atheist  Thu, Feb 28, 2013 5:30:19pm

re: #214 Amory Blaine

Could also promote further conservation efforts.

Already did that, got the T-shirt and raised the tax accordingly. I’m sure the brand spanking new legislative super majority had nothing to do with this. It was our “Board of Equalization” that did this. Heh a rather Orwellian name for a tax committee that seems weirdly perfect.

218 klys  Thu, Feb 28, 2013 5:30:57pm

re: #215 simoom

[Link: www.politico.com…]

I’m going to file this under the “maybe he’s regretting it a little bit” category.

219 Varek Raith  Thu, Feb 28, 2013 5:32:40pm

Sheesh, my respect for Woodward is now at 0.
Sad.

220 Political Atheist  Thu, Feb 28, 2013 5:33:15pm

re: #216 Glenn Beck’s Grand Unifying Theory of Obdicut

Thanks. Gas taxes used to be dedicated to our roads and highways. Then they got stolen (please forgive my frustration and resulting hyperbole) by the general fund and off we went. I like the old system. Gas taxes dedicated to vehicle infrastructure. At least that offers a balance of need and tax rate.

221 Amory Blaine  Thu, Feb 28, 2013 5:34:19pm

Lawmaker: Make all Idaho adults militia members

Lawmakers fearful the U.S. Supreme Court might one day reverse itself on the issue of individual gun rights aim to change the Idaho Constitution’s definition of a militia to include all the state’s adults.

That way, argued Sen. Jim Rice of Caldwell Wednesday in the Senate State Affairs Committee, the federal government could never swoop in and disarm residents.

Rice wants to put the amendment before voters in the November 2014 election, calling it an important “backstop” to existing protections of individual gun rights.

222 simoom  Thu, Feb 28, 2013 5:36:02pm

re: #218 klys

I’m going to file this under the “maybe he’s regretting it a little bit” category.

I imagine Politico is too, having gone all in with Woodward yesterday:

223 klys  Thu, Feb 28, 2013 5:36:21pm

re: #220 Political Atheist

Thanks. Gas taxes used to be dedicated to our roads and highways. Then they got stolen (please forgive my frustration and resulting hyperbole) by the general fund and off we went. I like the old system. Gas taxes dedicated to vehicle infrastructure. At least that offers a balance of need and tax rate.

Agreed, although that model will also face increased challenges with improvements to MPG and increases in electric cars.

224 Bubblehead II  Thu, Feb 28, 2013 5:37:16pm

re: #221 Amory Blaine

That ran yesterday. Wife told me to “Go To Hell” when I asked her if She wanted to be an involuntary member of the Idaho Militia.

225 Glenn Beck's Grand Unifying Theory of Obdicut  Thu, Feb 28, 2013 5:37:52pm

re: #220 Political Atheist

Yeah, infrastructure is the key. There’s no particular reason a poor schlub who has to commute 70 miles to work should pay the tax on the gas he uses to do that, and the company that employs him shouldn’t. It’s necessary to both of them that he get there. The infrastructure benefits them to.

Consumption taxes can drive conservation, but only if it’s paired with actual alternatives. If we were raising the gas tax while immensely strengthening public transport, that’d make sense. But it makes as much sense to tax people generally for infrastructure as it does to tax drivers. I don’t drive at all. I order a lot of shit from the internet. I don’t have to pay the taxes on that gas— sure, part of that cost is passed to me, but only part, and I still don’t directly pay it— but it’d make sense if I did.

Most attempts to tie a tax to a particular need gets tricky immediately because things are so interconnected.

226 Political Atheist  Thu, Feb 28, 2013 5:40:02pm

re: #223 klys

Agreed, although that model will also face increased challenges with improvements to MPG and increases in electric cars.

Great point. The electric and hybrid cars will need to be taxed differently. Schizo governance-Give tax incentives to buy hybrid and electric cars. Then tax those cars extra to make up lost gasoline revenue. Go figure.

227 Killgore Trout  Thu, Feb 28, 2013 5:42:41pm

re: #226 Political Atheist

Great point. The electric and hybrid bars will need to be taxed differently. Schizo governance-Give tax incentives to buy hybrid and electric cars. Then tax those cars extra to make up lost gasoline revenue. Go figure.

They’ve been struggling with that here in Oregon and Washington. Electric cars don’t produce enough tax revenue.

228 Killgore Trout  Thu, Feb 28, 2013 5:45:48pm

Good news! Cyborg rat brains connected!
One rat brain ‘talks’ to another using electronic link

Scientists have connected the brains of lab rats, allowing one to communicate directly to another via cables.

The wired brain implants allowed sensory and motor signals to be sent from one rat to another, creating the first ever brain-to-brain interface.

The scientists then tested whether the rat receiving the signal could correctly interpret the information.

As the ultimate test of their system, the team even linked the brains of rats that were thousands of miles apart.

My favorite quote…

“If you want to get information into the brain, then putting electrodes right at the brain sites is the way to do it. However, it’s clearly very invasive,” said Prof James.

He added that the invasive nature of the research raised ethical questions: “It’s very, very interesting isn’t it? Because in humans you’d obviously get informed consent in doing this.”

Prof James explained: “It’s an exciting paper which basically shows that it is possible to take information out of the brain, and it is possible to take information and pump it into the brain.

“What this shows is that the technology is here. And the sort of things we should be talking about is: Why are we doing this, and what do we hope to get out of it?”

229 Killgore Trout  Thu, Feb 28, 2013 5:47:32pm

I want a rat brain pump.

230 Varek Raith  Thu, Feb 28, 2013 5:48:00pm

re: #229 Killgore Trout

I want a rat brain pump.

Take this one, I’ve got lots.

231 Patricia Kayden  Thu, Feb 28, 2013 5:48:32pm

re: #86 Glenn Beck’s Grand Unifying Theory of Obdicut

I hope that the government’s attorneys are making these points in front of the US Supreme Court. It would be nice if the VRA was upheld despite Scalia’s obvious disdain for it.

232 Glenn Beck's Grand Unifying Theory of Obdicut  Thu, Feb 28, 2013 5:50:25pm

re: #231 Patricia Kayden

To be clear, the only section of the VRA that’s considered seriously under threat is section 5, pre-clearance. I’m pretty sure of that, anyway.

233 Bubblehead II  Thu, Feb 28, 2013 5:50:44pm

NASCAR not amused.

NASCAR Nationwide Series Driver Jeremy Clements Suspended for Using Racial Slur

NASCAR Nationwide Series driver Jeremy Clements reportedly used an unidentified racial slur in an interview with a writer at Daytona International Speedway. That slip-up has cost him dearly, as Clements has been indefinitely suspended from racing.

234 Interesting Times  Thu, Feb 28, 2013 5:52:30pm

re: #232 Glenn Beck’s Grand Unifying Theory of Obdicut

To be clear, the only section of the VRA that’s considered seriously under threat is section 5, pre-clearance.

Antonin Scalia’s response.

235 Bubblehead II  Thu, Feb 28, 2013 6:02:05pm

OOPS!

Thousands of litres of whisky flushed down drain in Dumbarton

Instead of draining away waste water, the workers on duty somehow flushed out thousands of litres of bulk whisky.

236 Gus  Thu, Feb 28, 2013 6:05:22pm

Spidey sense, tingling.

237 Glenn Beck's Grand Unifying Theory of Obdicut  Thu, Feb 28, 2013 6:07:31pm

re: #233 Bubblehead II

I wonder if he said ‘n-rigged’.

238 thedopefishlives  Thu, Feb 28, 2013 6:14:15pm

re: #236 Gus

Spidey sense, tingling.

You rang?

Evening Lizardim.

239 Bubblehead II  Thu, Feb 28, 2013 6:15:25pm

re: #237 Glenn Beck’s Grand Unifying Theory of Obdicut

I wonder if he said ‘n-rigged’.

That seems to the consensus in the comments section. Apparently he was having oil flow problems with his car and they did some quick repairs that didn’t quite work. Either way, it is an ugly phrase that needs to be stamped out.

240 thedopefishlives  Thu, Feb 28, 2013 6:16:15pm

re: #237 Glenn Beck’s Grand Unifying Theory of Obdicut

I wonder if he said ‘n-rigged’.

It’s still a stupid phrase. My redneck neighbor used to say that all the time. He was definitely a son of the South.

241 Gus  Thu, Feb 28, 2013 6:21:43pm

re: #238 thedopefishlives

You rang?

Evening Lizardim.

Was below deck checking the avionics. It appears that the problem has been repaired.

242 thedopefishlives  Thu, Feb 28, 2013 6:24:24pm

re: #241 Gus

Was below deck checking the avionics. It appears that the problem has been repaired.

Helmsman, take us out. Full speed ahead.

243 klys  Thu, Feb 28, 2013 6:25:38pm

re: #242 thedopefishlives

Helmsman, take us out. Full speed ahead.

Don’t forget to take off the parking brake!

244 Gus  Thu, Feb 28, 2013 6:26:06pm

Is that MyLikes ad new?

245 Bubblehead II  Thu, Feb 28, 2013 6:27:34pm

re: #240 thedopefishlives

It’s still a stupid phrase. My redneck neighbor used to say that all the time. He was definitely a son of the South.

I still hear it. Hell, I even had a coworker tell me it was actually a compliment.

As the in, the air filter Nasa built from assorted parts for Apollo 13 was a N-Rigged device that actually worked and saved the crew.

Bullshit!

It meant then, as well as now, shoddy work, using the wrong parts, by incompetent individuals to get a job done.

246 Gus  Thu, Feb 28, 2013 6:28:32pm

This right here…

Image: Screen-Cap.jpg

It’s autoscrolling too.

247 thedopefishlives  Thu, Feb 28, 2013 6:29:24pm

re: #246 Gus

This right here…

Image: Screen-Cap.jpg

It’s autoscrolling too.

I don’t know. I lurk in thread spy mode, so I don’t see ads all too often.

248 PhillyPretzel  Thu, Feb 28, 2013 6:29:28pm

re: #246 Gus

Ahh. I wondered what that was. Thanks. :)

249 thedopefishlives  Thu, Feb 28, 2013 6:30:44pm

re: #245 Bubblehead II

I still hear it. Hell, I even had a coworker tell me it was actually a compliment.

As the in, the air filter Nasa built from assorted parts for Apollo 13 was a N-Rigged device that actually worked and saved the crew.

Bullshit!

It meant then, as well as now, shoddy work, using the wrong parts, by incompetent individuals to get a job done.

Yeah. Ironically enough, the example you picked is the diametric opposite of the actual meaning of the phrase. Quick and cobbled together, yes, but it was a carefully thought-out solution by some very bright people.

250 Bubblehead II  Thu, Feb 28, 2013 6:31:57pm

re: #246 Gus

This right here…

Image: Screen-Cap.jpg

It’s autoscrolling too.

Don’t think I’ve seen that before. Charles have you been tweaking the system again?

251 Gus  Thu, Feb 28, 2013 6:33:31pm

re: #250 Bubblehead II

Don’t think I’ve seen that before. Charles have you been tweaking the system again?

It’s like right in the middle of everything. Links to some goofy “TinyBytes for Me” site and another called “Daily Pix Me.”

252 Vicious Babushka  Thu, Feb 28, 2013 6:38:34pm

re: #251 Gus

It’s like right in the middle of everything. Links to some goofy “TinyBytes for Me” site and another called “Daily Pix Me.”

This is why I have a subscription. Also: use AdBlock.

253 Bubblehead II  Thu, Feb 28, 2013 6:39:35pm

re: #251 Gus

It’s like right in the middle of everything. Links to some goofy “TinyBytes for Me” site and another called “Daily Pix Me.”

I think Charles is trying to fuck with our heads.

Worlds Hottest Female Politicians. With a Picture of Michelle?

254 Vicious Babushka  Thu, Feb 28, 2013 6:40:24pm

WTF DERP



255 thedopefishlives  Thu, Feb 28, 2013 6:41:10pm

re: #254 Vicious Babushka

WTF DERP

Laws, once enacted, are immutable. Now tell him that about ObamaCare.

256 Charles Johnson  Thu, Feb 28, 2013 6:42:13pm

re: #244 Gus

Is that MyLikes ad new?

Yes, I’m checking it out to see how it fits.

257 Bubblehead II  Thu, Feb 28, 2013 6:45:02pm

re: #254 Vicious Babushka

WTF DERP

“3. Refusing to defend a law and instead fighting it in court is not faithfully executing the law but its opposite. QED.”

No, shit for brains. If you don’t like a Law, you go to Court, present your case as to why you feel the Law is wrong and then let the court determine if you arguments are valid. You know, Using your right of redress under the Constitution.

Edited for clarity.

258 Gus  Thu, Feb 28, 2013 6:45:57pm

re: #256 Charles Johnson

Yes, I’m checking it out to see how it fits.

You want my opinion?

259 AlexRogan  Thu, Feb 28, 2013 6:47:53pm

re: #118 Gus

Congrats, Erick, Son of Erick…you’ve just had first-hand experience with the nutjobs that you and the rest of the RWNJ media darlings have been pandering to and stirring up.

Have fun with that!

260 thedopefishlives  Thu, Feb 28, 2013 6:49:11pm

re: #257 Bubblehead II

No shit for brains. If you don’t like a Law, you go to Court, present your case as to why you feel the Law is wrong and then let the court determine if you arguments are valid. You know, Using your right of redress under the Constitution.

Not to mention that Obama, as head of the Executive, has the power of selective enforcement. It’s the executive’s check on the legislature when the veto is overridden.

261 chadu  Thu, Feb 28, 2013 6:52:04pm

re: #93 Vicious Babushka

I… whut?

262 chadu  Thu, Feb 28, 2013 6:53:29pm

re: #99 Gus

Supporting Israel is a necessity, but Jews are bad. Okay.

(WTFF?!?!)

263 AlexRogan  Thu, Feb 28, 2013 6:55:01pm

re: #177 Gus

Check it out. He’s still thinking about me.

Hey, Mr. Henry, obsess much?

264 Charles Johnson  Thu, Feb 28, 2013 6:55:47pm

re: #258 Gus

Sure, I always want to hear opinions. I’m still experimenting with options and settings, though, so it may change.

265 Vicious Babushka  Thu, Feb 28, 2013 6:58:04pm

re: #262 chadu

Supporting Israel is a necessity, but Jews are bad. Okay.

(WTFF?!?!)

People like Tony Perkins think all Teh Juice are going to Hell, but they support Israel to fuel a nuclear war in the Middle East and then

Armageddon will happen and Teh Bad Juice will DIE but Teh Good Juice will ACCEPT JESUS WHO WILL THEN COME DOWN FROM TEH HEBBEN AND KILL ALL TEH MUSLIMZ!!!111!!!!

266 Gus  Thu, Feb 28, 2013 6:58:14pm

re: #264 Charles Johnson

Sure, I always want to hear opinions. I’m still experimenting with options and settings, though, so it may change.

Well. Is it always going to link to those sites? It also seems to be right in the middle of things up there. Right next to the “jump to bottom” button. Right now, I’m not liking it. The scrolling is kind of distracting too.

267 chadu  Thu, Feb 28, 2013 7:02:29pm

re: #139 Killgore Trout

Since it seems we’re going over the fiscal cliff tomorrow you’d the there’d be a lot of coverage about what to expect, economic impact, long and sort term consequences, when/how it might be resolved. Almost nothing. Mostly just coverage of the “he said/she said” finger pointing.

Outside the Beltway, no one has an idea or a care (until shit starts happening next week).

Inside the Beltway, we know what the sitch is and who’s responsible: the House GOP.

PROGNOSTICATION: Sequester will be defined for 11:59 pm Friday night, 3/1, and the meeting tomorrow will have Boehner ceding that tax increases/revenue is part of what needs to happen, and Obama agrees to a handful of additional cuts.

That way Boehner looks “tough” (Congress vacation, no meetings on sequester thus far, not blinking until the last second) to his constituents/donors by playing chicken with the economy; Obama gets the juice from a last-minute compromise; and everyone can spin it as they will.

However, if the above is completely wrong… Well, welcome to the death throes of the GOP.

268 Stanley Sea  Thu, Feb 28, 2013 7:04:43pm

re: #265 Vicious Babushka

People like Tony Perkins think all Teh Juice are going to Hell, but they support Israel to fuel a nuclear war in the Middle East and then

the hebbin

ha

269 Vicious Babushka  Thu, Feb 28, 2013 7:06:58pm

OMFG.
Jim Hoft Hugz Pammy. (Click at your own risk, not responsible for what can not be unseen.)

270 Bubblehead II  Thu, Feb 28, 2013 7:08:08pm

re: #260 thedopefishlives

Not to mention that Obama, as head of the Executive, has the power of selective enforcement. It’s the executive’s check on the legislature when the veto is overridden.

Correct. Block and then take to Trial to have said Law overturned by the Courts. Bryan doesn’t seem to understand that concept.

271 thedopefishlives  Thu, Feb 28, 2013 7:09:05pm

re: #270 Bubblehead II

Correct. Block and then take to Trial to have said Law overturned by the Courts. Bryan doesn’t seem to understand that concept.

There are a lot of concepts the Christian Caveman doesn’t seem to understand.

272 Vicious Babushka  Thu, Feb 28, 2013 7:09:27pm

My eyes. My eyes are bleeding.

273 Bubblehead II  Thu, Feb 28, 2013 7:12:57pm

re: #269 Vicious Babushka

OMFG.
Jim Hoft Hugz Pammy. (Click at your own risk, not responsible for what can not be unseen.)

Well. he just sealed his fate/doom. That pic was the kiss of death.

274 chadu  Thu, Feb 28, 2013 7:14:37pm

re: #265 Vicious Babushka

People like Tony Perkins think all Teh Juice are going to Hell, but they support Israel to fuel a nuclear war in the Middle East and then

18th Century eschatological interpretations of 5th Century critiques against the Church of Rome don’t impress me.

(NOTE: Dates might be off, because I’ve had a beer or three, and can’t be arsed to Wikipedia actual dates.)

275 Gus  Thu, Feb 28, 2013 7:15:11pm

re: #262 chadu

Supporting Israel is a necessity, but Jews are bad. Okay.

(WTFF?!?!)

IOKIYAR

276 Gus  Thu, Feb 28, 2013 7:16:31pm

Of course in Hagel’s case IOKIYAR up until you get chosen for a cabinet position by Democrat.

277 Mentis Fugit  Thu, Feb 28, 2013 7:17:00pm

re: #249 thedopefishlives

Yeah. Ironically enough, the example you picked is the diametric opposite of the actual meaning of the phrase. Quick and cobbled together, yes, but it was a carefully thought-out solution by some very bright people.

My life is not richer for having learned that such a term exists. Indeed, it seems contrivedly offensive.

What was actually done - a skilled improvisation - is more than adequately described by the term “jury rigged”, while a Brit-Eng speaker looking to characterize a shoddy piece of work has recourse to “jerry-built”, an epithet that has the virtue of being a slander against no one. Not even the Germans.

278 chadu  Thu, Feb 28, 2013 7:18:02pm

re: #275 Gus

IOKIYAR

IOKIYAR hypocrisy pisses me off more than anything.

David Vitter visits prostitutes for diaper-play? OK.

Larry Craig uses his “wide-stance” to solicit gax sex in airport bathrooms? OK.

Andrew Weiner sexts a pic of his clothed package? BURN HIM AS A WITCH!!!

279 Glenn Beck's Grand Unifying Theory of Obdicut  Thu, Feb 28, 2013 7:20:44pm

re: #277 Mentis Fugit

What was actually done - a skilled improvisation - is more than adequately described by the term “jury rigged”, while a Brit-Eng speaker looking to characterize a shoddy piece of work has recourse to “jerry-built”, an epithet that has the virtue of being a slander against no one. Not even the Germans.

Image: Jerry_Seinfeld.jpg

280 AlexRogan  Thu, Feb 28, 2013 7:44:33pm

re: #255 thedopefishlives

Laws, once enacted, are immutable. Now tell him that about ObamaCare.

He’d say, “But, but that’s different!”

Bryan Fischer: King of cognitive dissonance.


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